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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John J. Ladasky, Jr. writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> > Well, if anyone had any doubts that our anonymous foe
> > is prepared for a long, drawn-out struggle, those should
> > be laid to rest by now. Details aren't all in, but it
> > appears those who didn't get a chance to carry out their
> > "missions" on Tuesday tried to get through yesterday instead!
> > (What a bunch of idiots--but hey, now we have some *alive*...)
> > Apparently the Feds have 10 or 11 individuals in custody,
> > people who had knives and in a couple of cases pilot's
> > licenses and were wearing stolen uniforms (Delta, I think).
> > They had Tuesday tickets to LAX originally.
>
> A report on NPR this morning indicates that the FBI is now denying that there
> was any such group. The report of a single individual attempting to board a
> plane with a fake pilot's ID in New York has not yet been contradicted, but
> I'll wait for the FBI to say so before I believe it.
Apparently (at least as CNN relates) they're still holding one,
the guy with the pilot ID.
> Also this morning, CNN apologized on its web site for naming one Adnan Bukhari
> of Vero Beach, Florida as one of the pilots who crashed an airplane on Tuesday.
> Mr. Buhkari is alive and is cooperating with the FBI in its investigation.
Isn't there another person, a brother, who is stating that the
person suspected by the FBI of flying one of the planes in fact
died in an air crash a year ago? The most insidious and unfounded
rumor I've heard is that Muslims in Patterson, NJ were dancing
in the streets to the news. There's NO support for such a rumor
whatsoever--but hatemongers have siezed on it as "proof" that
we should destroy all Arabs.
> Rumor, desperation, and intense media coverage are contributing to numerous
> premature and erroneous reports. And, just under the surface, racism simmers.
> Prominent public officials may make somewhat restrained statements -- however,
> sometimes not. Yesterday's description of the scope of the war to come,
> delivered by Colin Powell, left me pretty breathless. It appears that the U.S.
> is making certain requests of Pakistan and Afghanistan -- but once they're
> done with whatever they feel they need to do there, they plan to "destroy
> terrorism wherever it may hide." Really? That's a LOT of countries...
Yes--the statements last night were a bit disturbing. The
DoD broadened the scope in a worrying manner. I don't think
I'm exaggerating by saying this is the most worrying moment
in US history since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
> On the Internet, people's true colors are not so hidden. You don't have to
> wade very far into the discussion groups to find people making statements like
> this one: "Kill them all. Let Allah sort them out."
I've been hearing this out of some of my *colleagues*. Thank
goodness, nobody on the faculty itself, but still these are
people with advanced college degrees, who are suggesting that
we invade, conquer, and forcibly convert the entire region.
That's so out of touch with reality that I don't even know
where to start.
> While I'm all for punishing those responsible for the terrorism, and their
> friends who have harbored them, I hope that this intense, emotional atmosphere
> does not result in the United States acting rashly. We can afford to take some
> time investigating the attacks. Let us do so. Let us prove to the world, to
> their satifaction, that we know who the culprits are. Reckless acts will cost
> us the good will of the nations around the world who have offered us their
> condolences and support.
Well said.
> Lindsay, you're a cosmopolitan guy. I know that you personally need no
> convincing that the U.S., no matter how deep its grievances, must never forget
> its need to maintain good foreign relations -- and not just with the U.K. and
> Israel. However, I am not very sure that our fellow Americans are as
> level-headed about the matter. Sick with rage and intoxicated by American
> military power, they are tempted to "go it alone." If we follow their path,
> the curse of the Ugly American will follow us all for decades to come.
Again, well said. I didn't make it clear in my message,
but this is my tack as well--and it's part of the duty of
those who *are* contemplating and thinking to serve as a
brake on those who would hold the whole Arab--or the whole
Muslim--world responsible.
> > From the looks of it, the Feds may have dropped the ball on
> > the initial attacks, but it looks like things are falling
> > into place now. This little band of demons is on borrowed
> > time, and so are their brothers in terror "back home" and all
> > over the world, from Manila and Hamburg to Baghdad and Kabul. I
> > have a strange feeling that our people already know the
> > first couple of targets on our list, and may even be on their
> > way. May their aim be true (I have few doubts it will be).
>
> May their aim not ALSO be false.
That's implicit, I hope.
best
LFB
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