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Re: Handgun Death Rate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:53:02 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jason J. Railton writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
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> > > Wrong. I'm protecting the constitution from you. And I'll win or die.
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> > Spot on. Those that sacrifice freedom for peace shall have neither.
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> Strange, but my idea of freedom is not living in constant fear of being
> shot. That's why each of you wants a gun - to defend yourself against all
> the others who have guns. It doesn't even occur to you that everyone else
> wants a gun because they don't trust you with one either. It's a culture of
> incredibly selfish paranoia. There's anything noble about it.
This is distortive and false. You're not thinking deeply enough, you're just
buying the line fed you.
> The constitution was written in a completely different time, when arms were
> muzzle-loading muskets and rifles - about as effective as throwing a knife,
> but much longer to prepare a shot. These were highly conspicuous when
> carried in the street, and rarely kept loaded because of the risk of
> personal injury (that and the risk of looking foolish when the powder and
> shot fall out). There's nothing noble in taking regulations for a standy
> militia and twisting the meaning to justify these escalations in civilian
> armament.
Again, distortive. Read the Federalist Papers before you comment further,
would be my suggesting.
The absolute level of technology is not the important point (remember:
swords were regulated by oppresive governments back when they were the best
tech available) it's the relative level. The founding fathers seemed to
intend that the populace be able to be armed at the same level as soldiers
they might face. At that time, it was muzzle loaders and cannon. Now it's
automatic weapons, anti tank weapons, night vision goggles, etc.
++Lar
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| (...) By whom? However deeply you or I think about this subject, the majority of gun owners (legal or illegal) do not. However noble your or the founding fathers' intentions, purchasing a gun for the purposes of home or personal defence, or carrying (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) Strange, but my idea of freedom is not living in constant fear of being shot. That's why each of you wants a gun - to defend yourself against all the others who have guns. It doesn't even occur to you that everyone else wants a gun because (...) (23 years ago, 18-Jul-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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