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Re: More LP S P A M : (was Re: Scary Survey results about the US First Amendment)
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:28:52 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > > > > Pornography is just a graphical depiction of sex. Sex happens in real life.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It does yes. But not as it is depicted in pornography.
> >
> > This is a family forum. Like I said before, it may just be that I am a prude.
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> Didn't you jump my case for calling you a prude several months ago?
I may well have.
> I think pornography is a good tool for parents to demonstrate sex when they're
> too shy to do so in person.
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> It sounds like Scott objects to the commission of certain acts or
> certain production aspects of popular pornography. I certainly agree that
> children shouldn't be subjected to bad porn. But if they can keep their storey
> line together, what's the problem?
The stereotypical porn movie is demeaning to woman. If I were to teach
anyone sex education, it would be more than a functional analysis. Sex
education should, at the very least, be in the context some sort of well
formed mutual relationship – not a liaison with the plumber. But perhaps
Chris was right to call me a prude.
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> > > What is your basis to the claim that acts depicted in pornography are
> > > different than those done in real life behind closed doors?
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> Ignorance is the only thing I can think of. I don't consider myself terribly
> worldly, but there isn't anything I can think of about the pornography that I
> have seen that is not done in the 'real' world. It would certainly be
> unreasonable to assume that everyone engages in whatever behavior all the
> time, but I know that everything I've seen is done sometimes by some people.
> And that's fine. It's good for people to do what makes them feel good.
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> > > > Violence in the movies is not the
> > > > same as in real life.
> > >
> > > How so? What is different?
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> Just like sex in films, if you make conclusions about the real world based on
> movies, you are prone to make them incorrectly. Movies do not show us the
> humdrum aspects of real life. As such, they show us a disproportionate amount
> of glamor topics like sex and violence. One could assume from exposure to the
> media that these topics actually occupy a larger part of everyone else's life
> than they really do. That's why we talk about movies in my house. So we can
> get a feel for what was realistic and what wasn't. So we can discuss what
> lessons can be learned.
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> > > > Perhaps the US's fascination with gun culture would be
> > > > lessened if the movies depicted the full horror of what they can do - rather
> > > > than depict the usual band-aid type wounds.
>
> I wish that movies would more acutely depict what happens to societies when
> violence becomes the norm. Maybe then, all the personal violence in the UK
> would start to recede and you folks would be able to live more safely. I'm
> sure glad that I don't have to worry the way y'all must.
Trouble maker.
Scott A
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> Chris
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