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RE: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mr L F Braun [mailto:braunli1@pilot.msu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 8:50 AM
To: lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com; lugnet.off-topic.debate@lugnet.com
Subject: Re: Pax Americana (was Re: Where did you lot spring from?)




Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:

In lugnet.loc.au, David Low writes:
In lugnet.loc.au, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
Strange isn't it how 'international' now seems to mean • 'US and maybe
elsewhere if you're lucky', isnt it.

[Maybe it's the way I was brought up, but I can't stand • the way that
american spelling [and culture (or lack of :) )] is • replacing the Australian
[and probably most other nations]].


<snip>
As a whinging pom, I don't feel particularly • 'alienated' by US references
though, how about you Aussies? :)


The main reason we don't feel alienated by US cultural • dominance is because
we're raised on it. When 75% of our world view comes from • America, and has
done so for the past couple of generations, it's not • surprising that we are
fairly comfortable with their culture -- even if our own • perspective is
narrowed as a consequence. For a brilliant exposition of • the Australian
postcolonial predicament read "The Unusual Life of Tristan • Smith" by Peter
Carey (the guy who wrote "Oscar and Lucinda").

On the other hand America gives us:
a) some measure of military security (allegedly)
b) technology like Lugnet
c) some worthwhile entertainment

Still, I'm not sure how deeply we want to go into • geopolitics, when we can be
distracted by a cool (non-American) toy.

Ahhhhh!  Cultural imperialism.  It's good to be king!  Now • forgive me while I
drive home in my Mazda and play Nintendo games on my • Panasonic TV and play
Pokemon cards with my son.  :-O

That's the root of my rant about Americanism--it's actually a
hybrid culture
that's gravitated towards the US because of economic power
and demographic
strength.  The insidious part of Americanism is actually its
functioning--its
corporatist nature.  'Tis not the Americanisation to me, 'tis
the Disneyfication
that's new.  Americanisation has been around since the 1890s,
after all--the idea
that the new and odd is American, but the traditional and
wholesome is entirely
home-grown.  The equations both that American=New/Alien and
American=Degenerate/Inferior is a venerable bugaboo.

And, of course, calling it "Americanization" makes it an easy
target for local
conservative nationalists (witness France).  It's much harder
to admit one's own
people's complicity in its creation and advancement.

By the way, for the .au folks, have you heard any of these
awful "Outback
Steakhouse" commercials they have up here in the eastern US?
The supposed
"essence" of Australia--Paul Hogan, wallabies, and Men at
Work, mostly--has been
canned and parleyed into a good-sized STOW-restaurant
(STOW=Stuff* Tacked On
Walls) empire up here.  It's depressing, and IIRC it was
started by an Australian
emigre catering to US myths about Australia.  Perhaps it's
indicative that there
aren't any in Australia, but there's one in Guam and a bunch
on the Pacific
Rim--and they have a partnership with NASCAR, a US stock-car
racing syndicate
usually associated with country bumpkins.

Sounds like the 'Lonestar steakhouses' [or something similar] over here,
although they are designed to represent america's outback area [I think]
[Due to possible censoring, I won't give my opinion of this :) ]
Unfortunately, at least in my opinion, too many places are trying to appear
'american' [or worse...being taken over by americans (nothing personal)],
and contributing to the americanisation of the country. [The reason this is
unfortunate, at least in my opinion, is that they portray america as being a
perfect role-model, and try to force everyone to be involuntary americans.
This is generally emphasised by the telly shows over here...most of it is
american [and in my opinion not very good], and this emphasis has the result
of making people [espesially children] think that america is the centre of
the world, instead of being happy with their own country, and their own way
of life.] I also have a dislike of the way that the american language [note:
not english] is taking over...but that's probably just me :)

http://www.outback.com

I weep for the future.

me too,

best,

Lindsay


Benjamin Whytcross
BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
Ph: (03) 9856 5282
Directory Technology Pty Ltd
1/436 Elgar Road,
Box Hill, 3128

Growing older is compulsary..Growing up isn't :-)



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