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Re: A possible way to get cheaper sets?
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Mon, 1 May 2000 23:30:26 GMT
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"Whytcross, Benjamin" wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Howse [mailto:jehowse@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 8:12 PM
> > To: lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com
> > Subject: Re: A possible way to get cheaper sets?
> >
> >
> > In lugnet.loc.au, Peter White writes:
> > > > > A second alternative is to try and find a local toy store, • and see if they
> > > > > will get in large orders for you at their cost + a small • %. This would
> > > > > still be cheaper for us, as well as getting the store • extra income without
> > > > > the hassle of shelf space. The only problem is that • whoever can do this has
> > > > > to get the orders organized, and there would be postage costs.
> >
> > > > I'll give this a try.
> >
> > Bravo!
> >
> > > Should be no skin off anyones nose. We place a large order • with the toy store,
> > > pay up front and they pass the kits on. As long as the store • realises we are
> > > not reselling in their catchment area, what could their • problem possibly be?
> > > No nasty UFO sets sitting on the shelf getting dusty, just • cash up front and
> > > they take their commission immediately. The only question is
> > what percentage?
> >
> > Another question is are the store ordering procedures that
> > flexable? Are there
> > minimum numbers of sets to order? (I know the smaller ones
> > come in trays of a
> > certain number).
>
> Minimum amount vary. Generally sets with a RRP of up to about $8.95 come in
> multiples of 6, sets up to $15 (20?) [star wars sets really confuse things
> here.. they are up to $25]are generally in packs of 3, and larger ones are
> individual.
>
> > Are there restictions on range or ratios of
> > small:large sets
> > to be observed?
>
> From the info on the order forms, there are no minimum amounts of
> large:small sets...Retailers decide what they want, and order accordingly.
>
> > Is there a pricing structure, how cheap do
> > stores _really_ get
> > lego, is it that much of the 40% (or whatever) above
> > wholesale, after all if
> > it is a boku moulah earner why aren't more stores into it?
>
> The reason, as I have been informed by a couple of toy stores, that they
> were getting out of lego/cutting down, is that you need to have a certain
> balance with LA...I think it was $6000. I beleive this is so they don't lose
> money (as much money) if a store goes out of business without paying of
> their orders. Unfortunately, there is no info about this on the order
> forms...All they have is account name and number. Also, with chain stores,
> the sets are normally delivered to a distribution centre, requiring
> transport and administraion costs to be covered.
>
> As to the pricing, the order forms have 3 price categories: Wholsale price
> (no sales tax), end price (wholesale price + 22% sales tax), and RRP [and on
> the train this morning, I read the legal info on the back of one order
> form...Price includes delivery [LA decides carrier and method of delivery],
> but any special packaging costs [either decided by LA, or requested] are the
> responsibility of the buyer]
>
> An example of a (current) favorite from 1997 price list :)
>
> set
> num name w/sale end cost RRP release
> 5561 Safari rally van $96.06 $117.19 $167.95 OCT
>
> (order forms only have W/sale price, price lists have all 3, but not an
> order quantity)
>
> > Benjamin, you've seen a order form, what do you recall?
>
> What would you like to know? I've brought all the order forms I have in to
> work today [price lists:1996-1997, order forms 1998-1999], and will try to
> answer any question about LA's pricing that I can.
>
> > Finally, is there a store owner that would put up with the
> > hassle of doing
> > this and would it risk his relationship with LA. I mean, a
> > guy puts in a large
> > order of lego, for particular sets not, say, a range or
> > theme. It's unusual
> > but LA does it, sending a rep to check it out. Rep gets there
> > and the stock's
> > not on shelves, Where did it go? Sold already? All of it?
> > You're not breaking
> > our price agreement are you? Want some more? come on, if you
> > got rid of all
> > that...
>
> Doing this would be no different to them taking several orders for sets that
> aren't in their general stock. I believe that LA dump a certain amount of
> sets that THEY think will sell on stores like toyworld at the start of the
> year, and after that, it is up to the store what they want to order in.[what
> I was told at toyworld camberwell]
>
> Speaking of which, have any toyworlds actually received much in the way of
> the 2000 range?
>
> > James (who wonders if LA cares that we have the 3rd most vocal online
> > . community in the world)
>
>
> Benjamin Whytcross (who thinks they probably don't even know we exist)
>
> BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
> Ph: (03) 9856 5282
> Directory Technology Pty Ltd
> 1/436 Elgar Road,
> Box Hill, 3128
>
> Growing older is compulsary..Growing up isn't :-)
Toyworld fremantle does have a lot of it, it was the first place I saw with the
big sets.
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| (...) Minimum amount vary. Generally sets with a RRP of up to about $8.95 come in multiples of 6, sets up to $15 (20?) [star wars sets really confuse things here.. they are up to $25]are generally in packs of 3, and larger ones are individual. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 1-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au)
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