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Re: A possible way to get cheaper sets?
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Mon, 1 May 2000 23:30:26 GMT
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"Whytcross, Benjamin" wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: James Howse [mailto:jehowse@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 8:12 PM
To: lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com
Subject: Re: A possible way to get cheaper sets?


In lugnet.loc.au, Peter White writes:
A second alternative is to try and find a local toy store, • and see if they
will get in large orders for you at their cost + a small • %. This would
still be cheaper for us, as well as getting the store • extra income without
the hassle of shelf space. The only problem is that • whoever can do this has
to get the orders organized, and there would be postage costs.

I'll give this a try.

Bravo!

Should be no skin off anyones nose. We place a large order • with the toy store,
pay up front and they pass the kits on. As long as the store • realises we are
not reselling in their catchment area, what could their • problem possibly be?
No nasty UFO sets sitting on the shelf getting dusty, just • cash up front and
they take their commission immediately. The only question is
what percentage?

Another question is are the store ordering procedures that
flexable? Are there
minimum numbers of sets to order? (I know the smaller ones
come in trays of a
certain number).

Minimum amount vary. Generally sets with a RRP of up to about $8.95 come in
multiples of 6, sets up to $15 (20?) [star wars sets really confuse things
here.. they are up to $25]are generally in packs of 3, and larger ones are
individual.

Are there restictions on range or ratios of
small:large sets
to be observed?

From the info on the order forms, there are no minimum amounts of
large:small sets...Retailers decide what they want, and order accordingly.

Is there a pricing structure, how cheap do
stores _really_ get
lego, is it  that much of the 40% (or whatever) above
wholesale, after all if
it is a boku moulah earner why aren't more stores into it?

The reason, as I have been informed by a couple of toy stores, that they
were getting out of lego/cutting down, is that you need to have a certain
balance with LA...I think it was $6000. I beleive this is so they don't lose
money (as much money) if a store goes out of business without paying of
their orders. Unfortunately, there is no info about this on the order
forms...All they have is account name and number. Also, with chain stores,
the sets are normally delivered to a distribution centre, requiring
transport and administraion costs to be covered.

As to the pricing, the order forms have 3 price categories: Wholsale price
(no sales tax), end price (wholesale price + 22% sales tax), and RRP [and on
the train this morning, I read the legal info on the back of one order
form...Price includes delivery [LA decides carrier and method of delivery],
but any special packaging costs [either decided by LA, or requested] are the
responsibility of the buyer]

An example of a (current) favorite from 1997 price list :)

   set
num   name               w/sale  end cost   RRP    release
5561  Safari rally van   $96.06  $117.19  $167.95  OCT

(order forms only have W/sale price, price lists have all 3, but not an
order quantity)

Benjamin, you've seen a order form, what do you recall?

What would you like to know? I've brought all the order forms I have in to
work today [price lists:1996-1997, order forms 1998-1999], and will try to
answer any question about LA's pricing that I can.

Finally, is there a store owner that would put up with the
hassle of doing
this and would it risk his relationship with LA. I mean, a
guy puts in a large
order of lego, for particular sets not, say, a range or
theme. It's unusual
but LA does it, sending a rep to check it out. Rep gets there
and the stock's
not on shelves, Where did it go? Sold already? All of it?
You're not breaking
our price agreement are you? Want some more? come on, if you
got rid of all
that...

Doing this would be no different to them taking several orders for sets that
aren't in their general stock. I believe that LA dump a certain amount of
sets that THEY think will sell on stores like toyworld at the start of the
year, and after that, it is up to the store what they want to order in.[what
I was told at toyworld camberwell]

Speaking of which, have any toyworlds actually received much in the way of
the 2000 range?

James (who wonders if LA cares that we have the 3rd most vocal online
.       community in the world)


Benjamin Whytcross (who thinks they probably don't even know we exist)

BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
Ph: (03) 9856 5282
Directory Technology Pty Ltd
1/436 Elgar Road,
Box Hill, 3128

Growing older is compulsary..Growing up isn't :-)

Toyworld fremantle does have a lot of it, it was the first place I saw with the
big sets.



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(...) Minimum amount vary. Generally sets with a RRP of up to about $8.95 come in multiples of 6, sets up to $15 (20?) [star wars sets really confuse things here.. they are up to $25]are generally in packs of 3, and larger ones are individual. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-00, to lugnet.loc.au)

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