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RE: To Todd - Could we get .org.au up soon
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Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:41:03 GMT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Lehman [mailto:lehman@javanet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 3:36 PM
> To: lugnet.loc.au@lugnet.com
> Subject: Re: To Todd - Could we get .org.au up soon
>
>
> In lugnet.loc.au, Santosh Bhat writes:
> > [...]
> > Well i said that as i thought that .org. groups only • allowed members to post,
> > as it turns out I was wrong. I just went and checked some • of the group
> > charters. So i'm assuming that yes anyone can post into the • group, though
> > posting doesn't mean automatic membership :-)
>
> There's currently no mechanism in place in the newsserver to
> limit posting to
> a given group to a given set of named people in an "easy"
> way, although there
> is a mechanism to block specific people from specific groups
> if they've been
> naughty.
>
>
> > So then if anyone can post into org.au(oceiania) then how • is it possible to
> > limit auction posts? This is an administrative nightmare for Todd if
> > organisations start saying who can post, who can't post, • who can read, who
> > can't read, who's only allowed to see the third word in
> each line etc..
>
> If someone posts to your .org.au in an annoying way and they
> ignore your
> warnings or kind reminders about whatever they're doing
> wrong, you can let
> me know that you'd like them prohibited from posting to your
> .org.au group
> and I can shut them off from that. If it really gets to be a
> problem with a
> lot of people making a mess, then I'll have to look at ways
> to help you
> automate the in's & out's of people lists in a way that you
> can administrate
> yourself via some configuration webpage.
>
>
> > But on the same note if you don't place some restrictions • surely we'll get to
> > a point where every auctioner and their dog will be posting • auction notices
> > into org.au even if it has nothing to do with the organisation.
>
> Ya, I think you'll want to make a guidelines page that maybe
> explains the
> charter in more detail (the rationale behind it) and I think
> Kerry's suggestion
> of noting that non-Oz auction stuff is verboten in .org.au is a great
> suggestion.
>
>
> > Hypothetical: someone in the US wants to auction an item • and is willing to
> > ship to Australia, can they post an auction notice into • org.au ?? or does it
> > belong in the general auction group?
>
> Heh heh! :) I would definitely view that as an abuse, but
> it's really up to
> you if you want to allow that sort of thing. Anyone in
> his/her right mind who
> ships internationally will also ship to Oz. I guess you'd
> want to make a page
> of examples or something further clarifying what's meant by
> Oz-specific market
> traffic.
>
>
> > I think I'm asking more questions that solving (so please • ignore this bit):
> >
> > 1) should only members be allowed to post to org.au?
>
> Currently moot because there's currently no good way to manage the
> restrictions. I'd like to offer admin of priv's like that to
> group leaders
> someday, though.
>
>
> > 2) Should org.au be broken into org.au.auctions (for auctions),
> > org.au.comments (for non-member comments)
>
> In the .org.* hierarchy of groups, the level directly below
> .org.xx (i.e.,
> the yy part of .org.xx.yy) is designed for organisation names
> (i.e., studs
> or legoz or nelug or vlc), but below that, in a named group
> for a specific
> LUG or club, you could have whatver subgroups/lists your club
> wanted -- i.e.,
>
> lugnet.org.xx.yy.auctions
> lugnet.org.xx.yy.robotics
> etc.
>
> It other words, it's a namespace issue -- the name of the
> subgroup shouldn't
> collide with the namespace of the possible set of group names.
So, we could go with:
lugnet.org.au.legoz.auction [market?] instead?
Benjamin Whytcross
BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
Ph: (03) 9856 5282
Directory Technology Pty Ltd
1/436 Elgar Road,
Box Hill, 3128
Growing older is compulsory..Growing up isn't :-)
> --Todd
>
>
> > hmmm...
> >
> > Santosh
> > (yay in 3 more hours i can leave for home...for SLEEP!)
>
>
> --Todd
>
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