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More good news for Castle folks!
Based on the results of the www.LEGO.com/myOpinions survey, I would like to
announce that the 2nd place winner is now also a LEGO Legend!
The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
available for pre-order in the US!
Check out the product at:
http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
You voted, and your choices and voices were heard!
Play Well!
Jake
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Jake McKee
Senior Producer
LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> available for pre-order in the US!
Contrary to popular belief, Canada is part of North America not the US...
yet. ;-)
Jude
XFUT .loc.ca
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I am curious what happened to the BSB? Is there a reason the 2nd place set
is going to market first?
"Jake McKee" <jacob.mckee@america.lego.com> wrote in message
news:H3D58B.FBt@lugnet.com...
> More good news for Castle folks!
>
> Based on the results of the www.LEGO.com/myOpinions survey, I would like • to
> announce that the 2nd place winner is now also a LEGO Legend!
>
> The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> available for pre-order in the US!
>
> Check out the product at:
>
> http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
>
> You voted, and your choices and voices were heard!
>
> Play Well!
>
> Jake
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
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> You voted, and your choices and voices were heard!
I'm really feeling this. I just wanted to say thanks, that after Lego Castle
officially died, us castle-heads have got the Guarded Inn, the Blacksmith's
Shop, and now Black Falcon's Fortress. Not even to mention some of the other
great things LEGO is doing (like Star Destroyer).
Once again, Thanks LEGO (and thanks to you too Jake for being such a cool voice
of LEGO for us AFOL's!)
peace
-Lenny McKee-Hoffman
>
> Play Well!
>
> Jake
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> More good news for Castle folks!
Jake, this is great news, but many of us are left with some question:
1) Why did this set hit the shelves in Europe before you told us about it?
Many of us pondered a mysterious Kmart add and speculated, then 1000stiene
suddenly had pictures. When the Guarded Inn was announced, you let us know
far in advance. Why couldn't we have known earlier?
2) Why hasn't classic space had a legend? The demand is certainly there in
our community. Can you fill us in on how the decision was made and what
possible impact was made by Megablocks or your licensing contracts?
That aside, I'm happy about the whole idea of Legends and a lot of the
exclusives Lego Direct has given us. Thank You!
Felix
http://www.lugnet.com/~94
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jude Beaudin writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> > available for pre-order in the US!
>
> Contrary to popular belief, Canada is part of North America not the US...
> yet. ;-)
>
> Jude
>
> XFUT .loc.ca
Your point is well taken.
But then, why did you set the followups to the California newsgroup?
I'll never understand Canadians.
-s
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In lugnet.loc.ca, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jude Beaudin writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > > The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> > > available for pre-order in the US!
> >
> > Contrary to popular belief, Canada is part of North America not the US...
> > yet. ;-)
> >
> > Jude
> >
> > XFUT .loc.ca
>
>
> Your point is well taken.
>
> But then, why did you set the followups to the California newsgroup?
>
> I'll never understand Canadians.
>
> -s
I agree 100% with Jude! (and since I have my bachelors in geography...) but
anyway, everybody should know that! :-P
Shaun, I think you missed something because .loc.ca is for Canada and
.loc.us.ca is for California...
;-)
Pierre (who hopes to understand Americans one day...) :-))))
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> More good news for Castle folks!
>
> Based on the results of the www.LEGO.com/myOpinions survey, I would like to
> announce that the 2nd place winner is now also a LEGO Legend!
Yesssss!!! I can't believe it! Finally!
Alright, for all of you who thought I'd continue complaining even
if I got what I wanted, too bad. None from me here. This is all bliss.
Anyway, thanks Jake for bringing back a true legend to lego.com. When
I get the chance, I know I'll definitely snag a copy of this one
(and increase my Black Falcon's forces threefold, not to mention
more walls, turrets, etc, that weren't available at the guarded inn,
and get this, only at half the cost).
It's available in europe, yes, but when will these start shipping,
and how long will it be until they are available in the US (if they
aren't already)? Just a few questions. :)
Any idea for a space legend any time soon, or is that
still in the drawing process?
Respectively,
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Fellow lego enthusiast
http://www.lugnet.com/people/members/~1112/
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Leonard Hoffman writes:
>
> > You voted, and your choices and voices were heard!
>
> I'm really feeling this. I just wanted to say thanks, that after Lego Castle
> officially died, us castle-heads have got the Guarded Inn, the Blacksmith's
> Shop, and now Black Falcon's Fortress. Not even to mention some of the other
> great things LEGO is doing (like Star Destroyer).
I don't think lego castle is officially dead, yet it's more
in a dormant state until either (1) the Harry Potter contract expires,
or (2) lego releases their next wave of killer designs. I bet you
lego is working on some models designs right now that would
put some castle creations to shame. Just a theory there.
But then again, that's the great thing about castle. Keep
it up, lego! Let's see some eurpoean designs/ middle
eastern themed creations, like the crusaders (turkish
forces from the tenth century would be cool.)
> Once again, Thanks LEGO (and thanks to you too Jake for being such a cool voice
> of LEGO for us AFOL's!)
I'll toast to that. :)
Respectively,
<<_Matt Hein_>>
Fellow lego enthusiast
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Hmmmm....
Should I buy 10039 Black Falcon's Fortress, a beautifully designed set that
I can build many alternative models from, for $39.99, or buy 6091 King Leo's
Castle, a....um....set, for $89.99.
Hmmmm.....
This could take me a while.
In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> More good news for Castle folks!
>
> Based on the results of the www.LEGO.com/myOpinions survey, I would like to
> announce that the 2nd place winner is now also a LEGO Legend!
>
> The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> available for pre-order in the US!
>
> Check out the product at:
>
> http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
>
> You voted, and your choices and voices were heard!
>
> Play Well!
>
> Jake
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
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> I am curious what happened to the BSB? Is there a reason the 2nd place set
> is going to market first?
Just a guess but - The BSB, a larger and more expensive set, is most likely
meant for the holiday season. Perhaps it is a set on store shelves and
requires more time for production?
Ben
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jude Beaudin writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> > available for pre-order in the US!
>
> Contrary to popular belief, Canada is part of North America not the US...
> yet. ;-)
<Blushing>
So once in high school geography, someone mentioned that North America
included Canada. After college... well, lots of stuff was lost...
Thanks for the reminder.
Jake
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Jake McKee
Senior Producer
LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Gregory Muri writes:
> I am curious what happened to the BSB? Is there a reason the 2nd place set
> is going to market first?
Simple answer: The BSB is a bigger set, and thus more complex to fulfill. It
is a simple case of logistics. Sorry, should have mentioned that in the
original post.
Jake
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Jake McKee
Senior Producer
LEGO Direct
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What about Australia? We have no price listed at the moment, and this is
one set that I will surely get, especially with the now-lowered shipping
costs. Will this set come to the land of Oz??
In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> More good news for Castle folks!
>
> Based on the results of the www.LEGO.com/myOpinions survey, I would like to
> announce that the 2nd place winner is now also a LEGO Legend!
>
> The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> available for pre-order in the US!
>
> Check out the product at:
>
> http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
>
> You voted, and your choices and voices were heard!
>
> Play Well!
>
> Jake
> ---
> Jake McKee
> Senior Producer
> LEGO Direct
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> >
> > I just wanted to say thanks, that after Lego Castle
> > officially died.....
> I don't think lego castle is officially dead....
> <<_Matt Hein_>>
> Fellow lego enthusiast
I hope it never will but I wanted to point out something. A month ago I saw
"castle" in the shop at home section, some remaining king leo stuff, the
guarded inn, the blacksmith shop and such. Go look now, there is "Castle"
anywhere. The Guarded Inn and blacksmith shop got bumped to other
categories. Castle dead? Possibly for now. But we got a Black Falcon's
Fortress as a conselation prize.
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> More good news for Castle folks!
> http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
Yay! I am ordering one for sure. One question: How come the piece count is
421 instead of 435 in the Lugnet database for 6074? Wrong count in the
database or will we have combined brick in the new set?
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In lugnet.loc.ca, Pierre Normandin writes:
> In lugnet.loc.ca, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Jude Beaudin writes:
> > > In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > > > The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> > > > available for pre-order in the US!
> > >
> > > Contrary to popular belief, Canada is part of North America not the US...
> > > yet. ;-)
> > >
> > > Jude
> > >
> > > XFUT .loc.ca
> >
> >
> > Your point is well taken.
> >
> > But then, why did you set the followups to the California newsgroup?
> >
> > I'll never understand Canadians.
> >
> > -s
>
> I agree 100% with Jude! (and since I have my bachelors in geography...) but
> anyway, everybody should know that! :-P
>
> Shaun, I think you missed something because .loc.ca is for Canada and
> .loc.us.ca is for California...
> ;-)
>
> Pierre (who hopes to understand Americans one day...) :-))))
tres bien, Pierre!!! (....very good, Pierre)
[which means that I find his anecdote funny, and I am happy the way he
put his correction in...sharp and too the point but in a way not to hurt
other's feelings!!!]
....and if I remembered my french vocabulary from Highschool, especially from
grade 12 (OAC), I might be able to write more....
Ben... who also has lost some stuff from high school as a result of College!!!
;)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Ka-On Lee writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > More good news for Castle folks!
> > http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
>
> Yay! I am ordering one for sure. One question: How come the piece count is
> 421 instead of 435 in the Lugnet database for 6074? Wrong count in the
> database or will we have combined brick in the new set?
When I seen this earlier today, I had similar questions in mind. I THINK that
both cases are probable. (then again, I never bought the set when it first
came out, so I don't know the "official" piece count) If the piece count
is indeed 435 on the original 6074 set, then the new set might have
"juniorized" pieces, but then (as far as I am concerned) it is no longer
considered a "LEGEND". This is my own personal view, however.
Ben...
who plans to order several (at least 1) ... ;)
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Can we get an ETA on the BSB?
Adrick
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> <Blushing>
>
> So once in high school geography, someone mentioned that North America
> included Canada. After college... well, lots of stuff was lost...
>
> Thanks for the reminder.
>
> Jake
There are, of course, 4 countries in NA. Figure that one out!
(with 3 "national" languages: Spanish, English & French)
Mind you, I don't believe that Lego NA ships to the 4th country, it probably
is handled through Lego EU
James Powell
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> More good news for Castle folks!
snip
> The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> available for pre-order in the US!
snip
Yes, I agree, this is good news, but . . . .
Will this set be available in the SHOPS in New Zealand ?
I think that, as it is approaching christmas, if this set appeared on the
shelves of the stores over here, then it would sell extremely well. This is
definitely the kind of set which would be an impulse buy for a lot of people
searching for something that looks as though it would give good play value.
If it sold like the first shipment of Harry Potter castles that arrived around
this time last year (all sets sold within the first couple of weeks), then Lego
should be able to move a reasonable amount.
So far, I have not seen any of the MB dragon sets in our shops, this could
quite easily change over the next few months in the run-up to the christmas
spending frenzy, if the Black Falcon Fortress is only available on-line from
S@H, then I believe that Lego will not sell very many of this set in this
country. The majority of purchasers do their buying from shops, most will not
even be aware of S@H, and if little "tommy" wants a castle set to play with at
christmas, and MB dragon sets are the only items available, well we know what
will get purchased don't we ?
So, the question is, will this item be available to "normal" shoppers or not ?
I personally, want several (if the money stretched far enough and the set was
available for long enough, at least as many as 10). But not if it means buying
through S@H, even with the reduced postage now available, I begrudge giving
money to a shipping company that I could be using to buy more Lego, but then
thats just me ;-)
Thanks - Ken
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Ka-On Lee writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > More good news for Castle folks!
> > http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
>
> Yay! I am ordering one for sure. One question: How come the piece count is
> 421 instead of 435 in the Lugnet database for 6074? Wrong count in the
> database or will we have combined brick in the new set?
As far as I recall, the original 6074 set had some spare parts including (as
far as I know the only LEGO castle set that really had spare parts).
My theory is that the new LEGEND don't include those spares.
My two cents
Yaron "Webrain" Dori
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In lugnet.loc.ca, James Powell writes:
>
> There are, of course, 4 countries in NA. Figure that one out!
> (with 3 "national" languages: Spanish, English & French)
Joke #1:
USA
Canada
Mexico
Quebec?
Joke #2:
USA
Canada
Mexico
Texas??
Serious response:
USA
Canada
Mexico
France (Magdalen Islands)
Jeff J
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In lugnet.loc.ca, Pierre Normandin writes:
> In lugnet.loc.ca, Shaun Sullivan writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Jude Beaudin writes:
> > > In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > > > The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> > > > available for pre-order in the US!
> > >
> > > Contrary to popular belief, Canada is part of North America not the US...
> > > yet. ;-)
>
> [snip]
> >
> > But then, why did you set the followups to the California newsgroup?
>
> [snip]
>
> Shaun, I think you missed something because .loc.ca is for Canada and
> .loc.us.ca is for California...
Hmmm, apparently the tongue planted firmly in cheek doesn't translate well to
plain text ... ahh well, so it goes :P
-s
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Well I just got one thing to say.
THANK YOU!
The Black Falcon's Fortress is probably the best castle that Lego has come
out with, certainly in terms of bricks for your buck (or in this case, your
pound), and those Black Falcons figs are just the best. Until a new castle
line may come out in the future, this is probaby the best possible set for
serious castlebuilders to stock up on for parts and stuff. Great news, thank
you so much Lego for doing this kind of stuff.
WOHOO!
Magnus
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Where are the Magdalen Islands? The only French islands in NA i can
think of are St-Pierre et Miquelon, just south of Newfoundland.
And what about Greenland? That's Danish territory, but it's closer to
Canada than to Denmark.
Of course, if you want to be technical, there are many different
countries in NA. I believe that each embassy is on its own country's
territory (ie. the US embassy in Ottawa is on US territory, the Iranian
embassy is on Iranian territory, and so on)
Jeff Jardine wrote:
> In lugnet.loc.ca, James Powell writes:
>
> > There are, of course, 4 countries in NA. Figure that one out!
> > (with 3 "national" languages: Spanish, English & French)
>
>
> Joke #1:
> USA
> Canada
> Mexico
> Quebec?
>
> Joke #2:
> USA
> Canada
> Mexico
> Texas??
>
> Serious response:
> USA
> Canada
> Mexico
> France (Magdalen Islands)
>
> Jeff J
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In lugnet.loc.ca, Jeff Jardine writes:
> In lugnet.loc.ca, James Powell writes:
> >
> > There are, of course, 4 countries in NA. Figure that one out!
> > (with 3 "national" languages: Spanish, English & French)
>
> Joke #1:
> USA
> Canada
> Mexico
> Quebec?
>
> Joke #2:
> USA
> Canada
> Mexico
> Texas??
Funny! :-)
> Serious response:
> USA
> Canada
> Mexico
> France (Magdalen Islands)
You probably meant St-Pierre and Miquelon Islands... Magdalen Islands are
canadian (Quebec).
:-)
Pierre
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In lugnet.loc.ca, Trevyn Watson writes:
> Where are the Magdalen Islands?
ici:
http://www.ilesdelamadeleine.com/cartes_geo_2.htm
> The only French islands in NA i can
> think of are St-Pierre et Miquelon, just south of Newfoundland.
Oui - I was wrong! Zut!
Jeff J
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Hello again!
Beseides the light grey swords they made another important variance in the
10039 compared to the original 6074. The Black Falcon emblem on the
legendary (because almost always broken if recieved in used condition) flag
has a slightly different shape:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jojo/legostore/10039flag.jpg
On the left you see the NEW version, on the right is the traditional shape.
So collectors who were worried about the value of their original Black
Falcon's Castle may calm down...
Bye
Jojo
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> The Black Falcon's Fortress is available as of today in Europe, and will
> available for pre-order in the US!
This is the set I selected during the voting so you can imagine that I am
well pleased at this turn of events. I'll probably buy several of these
sets just as I did of the GI -- actually, I may buy even more of this set
because it includes several elements of particular interest to me. I might
have preferred a price more like the GI, but I guess $5 USD one way or the
other doesn't matter much ultimately.
Hopefully, you can exert some influence over these matters but maybe you
could look into some stricter quality control guidelines over the production
of this set. The GI suffered of sloppy/blurred printing on the castle
walls, the sign, and the minis. We builders DO care about these details.
It was still hugely cool to get the GI back again, but it could have been
AMAZING! -- but was not.
I look forward to seeing what people can come up with given greater access
to some of these semi-rare color/element combinations: the Falcon minis and
their accessories, the black steep corner slopes and cap, the yellow tudor
walls, the light grey sword, the yellow half arches...
Man, I wish I could see the numbers on this stuff (i.e. older sets I do
like) versus other stuff (i.e. newer sets/whole product line I do not like).
I have to think that TLC is sitting on a goldmine of old sets that nobody
even has to design or put much thought into. It's all there ready to be remade.
And while I think Space is well-served by the SW line, I can't help but
think that TLC/LD should throw them a bone with something from the Classic
Space line. If not that, at least give them the Battrax -- I am looking at
one right now and I can't think of an element in that set that isn't readily
available (here I refer to the ability to mold the elements in question, not
that they exist readily in the needed colors). Given those circumstances,
putting together the Battrax as a Legend set is more a matter of production
and packaging than anything else isn't it?
Ultimately, I hope the success of the Legend and Classics lines equates into
the ability to make older sets even if molds need to be remade to accomplish
the given task.
Gee, look how nice I can be without even trying sometimes...
=)
-- Hop-Frog
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Johannes Koehler writes:
> They also changed the emblem on the minifigs' torsos to the new shape:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jojo/legostore/10039figs1.jpg
So we don't all have to dig out our falcons -- which is which?
The new one is on the left, yes? The old one is therefore to the right...
If I understand this correctly, I actually like this change. It's hard to
imagine why they decided to make the alteration though...the only thing I
can guess is that the figure on the left has a pattern more in keeping with
the shape of Lego triangle shields.
I could eventually be pursuaded to trade my original figs 1 for 2 with the
new ones...
=)
-- Hop-Frog
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Johannes Koehler writes:
> Hello again!
>
> Beseides the light grey swords they made another important variance in the
> 10039 compared to the original 6074. The Black Falcon emblem on the
> legendary (because almost always broken if recieved in used condition) flag
> has a slightly different shape:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jojo/legostore/10039flag.jpg
> On the left you see the NEW version, on the right is the traditional shape.
Wow both of your flags look great! I looked at mine today and it's printed
poorly:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Bryan/bff/dscf0163.jpg
This is uncommon for pieces made in the 80s...
-Bryan
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Hello!
> Wow both of your flags look great! I looked at mine today and it's printed
> poorly:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Bryan/bff/dscf0163.jpg
> This is uncommon for pieces made in the 80s...
Well, I think it was pure chance that I grabbed an accurate printed one.
I've got another flag that has a crooked silver-print, too. However, the
real problem is not the original printing but the children who played with
the parts... It's almost impossible to get a real good looking flag. Most
used parts look like these (OK, these are extreme cases):
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Jojo/legostore/fahnen.jpg
Bye
Jojo
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Ka-On Lee writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> > More good news for Castle folks!
> > http://shop.lego.com/product.asp?prod_id=10039
>
> Yay! I am ordering one for sure. One question: How come the piece count is
> 421 instead of 435 in the Lugnet database for 6074? Wrong count in the
> database or will we have combined brick in the new set?
Maybe this is part of the answer? (Clipped from the Lego website)
"Rounded castle wall pieces and “timber frame” wall pieces give it a unique
look!"
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> > Yay! I am ordering one for sure. One question: How come the piece count is
> > 421 instead of 435 in the Lugnet database for 6074? Wrong count in the
> > database or will we have combined brick in the new set?
>
> Maybe this is part of the answer? (Clipped from the Lego website)
> "Rounded castle wall pieces and “timber frame” wall pieces give it a unique
> look!"
No, as those were in the original. The timber wall is the tudor wall, and
the rounded castle walls are the corner walls (12 of them, cool!).
-Stefan-
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In lugnet.loc.ca, James Powell writes:
> > <Blushing>
> >
> > So once in high school geography, someone mentioned that North America
> > included Canada. After college... well, lots of stuff was lost...
> >
> > Thanks for the reminder.
> >
> > Jake
>
>
> There are, of course, 4 countries in NA. Figure that one out!
> (with 3 "national" languages: Spanish, English & French)
>
> Mind you, I don't believe that Lego NA ships to the 4th country, it probably
> is handled through Lego EU
>
> James Powell
Central America and the Caribbean are both North America.
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