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Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts
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Date: 
Wed, 6 Dec 2000 22:59:08 GMT
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In lugnet.lego.direct, James Powell writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Mark Sandlin writes:
> > > It's all very interesting and exciting, but I'm not very interested in
> > > losing rights to my designs. We shall see.
> > 
> > Rights? I don't disagree with your fundamental assertions here, Mark -- but
> > what exactly do you think happens when you post several detailed images of
> > your stuff to the internet?  Sure, maybe some people write to you and want
> > either the original or a boxed with instructions copy -- but most of us look
> > the thing over for useful ideas -- or maybe even just knock it off outright!
> 
> 
> If you did this to one of my GoB sets, and I find out about it, I _will_ take
> you to small claims court.  _I_ own the design, period.  If you come up with
> something similar, fine.  But, if you take from my design, and it is not
> enough different to prove that you came up with a signifigant difference, I
> will use the recorses that are available to me.

Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think you've got much of an argument here.

As long as I credit the creator, and am not republishing or selling their
work, then you're out of luck trying to sue me.  If I build a model based on
pictures of your model (which, unless I buy the instructions, or otherwise
obtain them, is all I have to go on), then that is a derivative work, by
definition.  So long as a credit my inspirition, well, tough noogies,
there's not much you can do about it.

If I see a painting in a gallery, take a picture of it, and paint my own at
home, that doesn't violate copyright.

If I see a (model on the internet), (download) a picture of it, and make my
own at home, that doesn't violate copyright.

you display something in public, you take that risk.

> Fine.  I am not going to cry over you coming up with your own designs.  I wish
> you _the absolute best_ in designing for yourself.  But, I am sure you have
> taken some ideas from elsewhere, from Lego designs, from the web, from meeting
> people and seeing what they have done...but, if you want what I have thought
> up, you have to _pay_ for it in one way or another, at least if I feel
> reasonable in charging for it.

This argument holds water, right up until you display something publicly.
As soon as you display a picture, gratis and free of obligation, then (IIRC)
under copyright law, I can create as many derivative works as I like, so
long as I credit my inspiration.  I can say "This is a copy I made of a
Fletcher Jennings model I saw" 'till the cows come home, and you can't do
anything about it.  You can legitimately complain, and sue my pants off, the
instant I claim it *is* a Fletcher Jennings model, though.

James



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  Re: LEGO Company Welcomes Adult LEGO Enthusiasts
 
(...) That's like saying, as long as I credit the band who wrote the song, and don't sell the CD, I am not breaking copywrite when I copy a CD. It ain't so, and I think it is fairly plain to see that that is not so. As for the comment above, (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) If you did this to one of my GoB sets, and I find out about it, I _will_ take you to small claims court. _I_ own the design, period. If you come up with something similar, fine. But, if you take from my design, and it is not enough different (...) (26 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)

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