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Re: The Future of Trains
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lugnet.lego
Date: 
Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:56:52 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, David Laswell wrote:

   Now, add to this the fact that most current custom part manufacturers are making parts that are small enough that they can save production costs by setting up multi-part molds, whereas the only track geometries that I can see being able to take advantage of that capability are stubbies (center of one tie to the next, either curved or straight). And of course you have people who wouldn’t buy them no matter how well they’re made for the simple reason that they aren’t official LEGO, or because they wouldn’t even be aware that custom track designs were even being made (essentially, anyone who isn’t aware of ILTCO). It’s definitely possible, but the costs would be prohibitively high for most people to even consider, and that’s just for all-plastic track, not even getting into the application of sheet metal rail coverings (which require both custom cutting dies and machines to attach them to the plastic bases). Fans will probably love the idea of being able to buy new 9v track geometries, but many will balk at the idea of paying even twice what The LEGO Company would have likely charged for the same part, and that’s assuming a custom manufacturer could even keep costs that low (I doubt it’s possible without intentionally taking a loss on the project).

Funny how we as AFOLs have a hard time thinking “outside the box”. We automatically assume that new track geometry necessarily requires large sectional track pieces. The old 4.5-volt/12-volt system had separate ties (sleepers in Europe), track and power sections (12-volt). Personally, I liked this way better, even if it required quite a bit of time to set up. When the 9-volt system initially came out, I saw the track as a “juniorization” of the train system.

It would probably be rather easy to make moulded ties with the proper studs in which we could slip in standard model railway track (just the metal part) of the appropriate size. This track is sold in bulk. Special tools called rail benders allow you to curve it to whatever radius you want, bringing about those large-radius curves everyone has been waiting for for so long. Where it gets a bit complicated is for the switches and crossovers. These would probably have to be hand-crafted. However, there are several talented people that modify LEGO’s standard track that would be up to the challenge. Heck, they could even make transition pieces to match up this track with standard 9-volt track.

As for power trucks, check out what’s available for standard model train hobbyists; http://nwsl.com/Catalog/pg025-cat4-06c-v0605.pdf I’m sure that they would be more than happy to make a modified version for us if there’s sufficient interest.

So the future isn’t as bleak as it would seem. If we want, we can continue with our hobby for a long time. Hell, some people (mostly in Europe) still continue on with their 12-volt trains almost 20 years after it was discontinued. It will probably mean cutting a few strings with the LEGO company but that could help the hobby grow.

DA



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: The Future of Trains
 
(...) Hehe, so I'm not alone on that one :-) (...) A guy in the Netherlands is just trying this, even before this message of discontinuation of the 9V line appeared. (...) About 5 years ago, I even started with Lego trains that were discontinued 23 (...) (17 years ago, 2-Oct-07, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
  Re: The Future of Trains
 
(...) Now that is kind of what I was advocating in my post. The whole LEGO system is a modular system--why not come up with modular way of creating tracks and motor housings or whatever using perhaps the system as the glue and outside parts as part (...) (17 years ago, 3-Oct-07, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
  Re: The Future of Trains
 
(...) Well, simple straights and curves could easily be made with flexible rails and individual ties, but many of the specialized track pieces that seem to be of real interest to the hobby are complex crossovers and points. Those would require (...) (17 years ago, 3-Oct-07, to lugnet.lego, FTX)

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(...) Writing programs or operating systems requires only three things. Knowledge, creativity, and time. The creativity clearly isn't an issue for the AFOL community, and any true hobbyist will find time when and where possible. Knowledge is the (...) (17 years ago, 2-Oct-07, to lugnet.lego)

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