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Re: 10152 Update
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Date: 
Sun, 19 Dec 2004 06:01:29 GMT
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Sorry for two replies here to the same post.

In lugnet.lego, Justin Pankey wrote:
   In lugnet.lego, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Maybe Lego should re-release the numbered Santa Fe Super Chiefs starting with the number “1” again ;o)

Maybe. Wouldn’t bother me too much.

  
   Personally I’m not sure I have a lot of sympathy for collectors that want to buy up multiple copies of a new set and thus make it harder for others to get copies. (Precious Princess, call your office!) Or for collectors that make decisions about what they collect based on percieved scarcity. Collect because you like the set!

So no set should should ever be sold above it’s MSRP?? I agree with Lego’s policy limiting 5 to each buyer. I don’t agree that a few people should be able to corner the market and leave other AFOL’s and kids alike wanting. That said, the fact of the matter is anybody who wanted one of these during the first run could have purchased one (or 5). Everyone knew about them and they where available for at least a month. Is it somehow o.k. that you purchased more than 5 simply because they were for your own personal use?

I have more sympathy for wanting multiple copies of the set for parts than I do for those that want to buy it up, not caring about it as a set, and resell it to suckers that didn’t know better while it was still available, yes.

Yes, I know it is the duty of all good capitalists to ensure that fools and their money are soon parted.

   Didn’t you also make it harder for others to get more copies?

Well, not really, because I waited for the mad rush to subside, and only then, after everyone that wanted some had plenty of time to order some, did I canvass and get more. After I got all I wanted, S@H still had some left, for quite some time, in fact. I’d say everyone that wanted some had their chance. Also, since I offered to pay, and in some cases, paid more than MSRP for the ones I bought from my friends, how is that different than just buying them from a reseller, which you seem to be OK with?

   Like it or not, Lego is NOT just a toy anymore it is a Collectable. This is obvious to anyone taking even a cursory look at the current Brickink prices of the original Star Wars sets, old used Town/Space sets, etc. This is a free capitalistic society and if somebody out there wants to make a purely financially based decision to buy a set that Lego swears it will never make again, God love ‘em and shame on Lego for changing it’s mind.

I don’t see this as an arbitrary or capricious change on LEGO’s part. I see it as a significant change in circumstances, as Jake explained.

So I’d say, shame on THEM for deciding that LEGO saying that it was not likely they would get more ABS in Maersk blue meaning that *nothing* would or could possibly change that, *nothing* would cause it to be a good thing to bring out another run, even after Maersk asked them to and agreed to fund the ABS needed.

Saying you have sympathy for those speculators is somewhat like saying you have sympathy for the people that bought Enron at 120 and rode it down to 0.25.. it sounds nice but it’s not sound economic policy.

   It is not a reason to celebrate for the many who were counting on having this set produced in a different color. I was looking forward to having more than Maersk Blue ships in my Harbor.

That I’ll buy. But maybe LEGO will change their mind. And also you can build a number of different hull colors already. (just not the dark green or dark blue we were hoping for)

  
   But that’s just me, I guess. This is going to be another “bash Jake” string, I just know it. I blanch at the very thought. Why? Why must we go there every time Jake brings us news?

Agreed! Jake shouldn’t get a bad rap for being the messenger. And even though I STRONGLY believe Lego should keep it’s promises when it says “Final Limited Edition,” I understand their desire for profit and the need to respond to Maersk’s request for more sets...they just shouldn’t release anymore to the public IN PLACE of what we all voted on!

That too I’ll buy. But maybe LEGO will change their mind.



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  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) I thought I made it clear I don't condone the practice as you are putting it here. I'm not talking about cornering the current market, I'm talking about resale years down the road. (...) You said it..."everyone that wanted some had their (...) (20 years ago, 20-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)

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  Re: 10152 Update
 
(...) Larry I can recall only one...Precious Princess in particular, and having more than the limit of 5 is what I find disturbing about that. I think Johannes is right...many people probably WERE hooked by the prospect of getting a Rare and Limited (...) (20 years ago, 19-Dec-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)

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