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| | | (...) Follow-up: In the Danish TV News, in two interviews, the new CEO said, that most of the production would probably be moved to China (where Click-its and many parts are already made) and KKK said that the trouble for LEGO was that they had (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Jeff Szklennik
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| | | | | In lugnet.lego, Arne Lykke Nielsen wrote: Snip (...) Snip (...) well, i weathered the color change, & lego ultra-juniorization/B.U.R.P etc. garbage, but this might break it for me. Lego, you darn well better absolutely NOT use slave labor & (...) (20 years ago, 21-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Patrick S. O'Donnell
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| | | | | | | (...) Yes all that and now the possibity that MegaBlocks and Lego being made in the same manufacturing plant. They'll just take the better ones and put them in the "Lego" bin with the poorer ones going to the other knock offs. -Patrick (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Timothy Wade
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'm just shocked...I can't even begin to say what this means to me....other than I guess the market for old Lego collections will just continue to go through the roof. <sigh> When will it ever end? (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Ahui Herrera
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| | | | | | | | (...) As sad (wrong depending on how ones sees it) as it may sound that TLC is moving production to China it *IS* the way of this century. Expect to see a lot of this occuring for the rest of our lifetime! 1st world countries *CAN NOT* compete (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —James Powell
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| | | | | | | | (...) Actually, I don't think it will save them much at all. Sea transport will now be across the atlantic, they have built the factories in Hungary, have the ones in Bulland (sp), ect. Cost to run the actual factories is relatively low in terms of (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —David Eaton
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Supposedly, it's around 7 seconds to cool and eject a new element from the mold (obviously differs according to piece size, etc). So if you count injection time, it's probably around 10 seconds or so? And I believe the number of elements (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) 2x4 bricks are in 8-part molds, yes. I'd venture a guess that 1x1 molds produce more parts per shot, and that some really large parts might even be single-part shots. Now that's all because you want to use the full volume capacity of the (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —David Eaton
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, it does admittedly sound low to me-- where are you getting the cite? Of course, I guess I also didn't include packaging and shipment, either-- and that's not necessarily just the "final" packaging, but shipping to other areas to be (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) (URL), when 161 waged production workers in Billund were laid off, and 1500 was the number cited as being employed in the affected departments. (URL), when 43 administrators were in Billund were laid off, and 2000 was the number cited as being (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Jeff Szklennik
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| | | | | | | | | | In lugnet.lego, David Eaton wrote: SNIP (...) surprise-overpaid upper mananagement cutting labor to save costs. we can still have the best product without keeping the perception that more management is better. Jeff (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) It's really easy to look at it that way, but the evidence suggests otherwise. I cited a few press releases (URL) elsewhere> in this thread, most of which dealt with layoffs. Within a month of announcing 161 production layoffs last year in (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Jeff Stabile
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| | | | | | | | (...) I would agree here. Maybe they are looking to take advantage of a newer, cheaper ABS supply? Is there a tax write-off in Denmark for relocation expenses like these? Its gotta cost a pretty penny to move the stuff. Jeff (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Ka-On Lee
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| | | | | | | (...) That is some rather ignorant ranting. Why would you expect those single kids, spoiled by two parents and four grand parents, would be forced to work? And what is this "slave labor"? Some cold war garbage? Yes you really tick me off too. (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Richard Noeckel
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Riii...iiight, and the majority of China's factory labor force is upper-middle class, university educated!?! Bad factory environments exist in much of the Global South, and China in no exception! Some generalizations are valid, simply because (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —David Laswell
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) No, but they've learned a lot over recent years. They've set up huge manufucturing districts, and the way it usually works is young adults will work there for a few years, earn enough money in that time to go buy a small farm, start up a (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Patrick S. O'Donnell
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Just to think about how we're (USA) going to support the baby boom generation in retirement and that there are four times as many humans in China with little in the way of future generations to support those. Of course their family structure (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Jeff Szklennik
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| | | | | | | | (...) I apologize, Ka-On Lee, for not making my point clearer. I had no intention of speaking negatively of children. I was lamenting the tendency of large corporations to abuse what they see as less developed economies by using the most vulnerable (...) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Jeff Szklennik
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeff Szklennik wrote: woah! why didn't the text 'wrap' like in the editing box? can someone fix my post (b4 this one)? Sorry! Jeff (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) Not that I am aware of, as fixing spacing or linewrapping is a kind of editing and LUGNET does not support editing. You can repost it and request a cancel of the original post if you like, but no one can change it, not even you, as far as I (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | | (...) I would like to see exactly how much more expensive per anum to make the stuff in Denmark than it is to make it in China. And what the extra expense is going towards (taxes? wages? electricity costs? what?) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Gary Thomas
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| | | | | | | (murfl) (20 years ago, 23-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Michael Shiels
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| | | | | | | | Not sure farming things out to China will benefit LEGO that much, the production system is so automated it doesn't involve that much hand work to my understanding but it would be interesting to have someone from LEGO comment on this. (20 years ago, 30-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | | | Re: MADE IN CHINA?!?!!?!?! that's IT Lego Re: Lego changes CEO... —Michael Shiels
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| | | | | | I wonder if LEGO has considered how that would affect prices in various countries. For example in Canada LEGO is duty free since Denmark is considered a preferred trading partner, but I am not sure on the situation with China, will see if I can find (...) (20 years ago, 25-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Lego changes CEO after new losses —Robb King
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| | | | | (...) That's right, those 12 people in the production facility are what led you to two consecutive years of heavy losses. I swear, this world is being ruined by the decisions of MBAs and accountants who have no natural talent for their occupation, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Lego changes CEO after new losses —Scott Lyttle
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| | | | | (...) I've worked with China before. I hate dealing with them. They wanted me to do all this work, then trying to get paid was like squeezing blood from a stone. Took me six months to get paid. Chinese people are smart--but I have found a rather (...) (20 years ago, 22-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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| | | | | Re: Lego changes CEO after new losses —Rocco J. Carello
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| | | | (...) Okay... They will be using the same molds so part quality should remain similar. (This says nothing for color consistency or actually getting the right parts in each bag/box) They probably won't save much money because they've often said that (...) (20 years ago, 24-Oct-04, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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