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I am curious to hear folks opinions on this one. I happened across a pics in brickshelf showing the boxes for new sets for 2008. It is my understanding that we do not allow links to leaks, so you will have to find it yourself. Long and short, for (...) (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Good! (17 years ago, 23-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I would say I'm torn as well. I like the idea of the "Agents" series, but would be against any kind of military-theme set. My main issue right now is the inclusion of weapons that actually fire in sets (Exo-Force and Star Wars mainly). To me (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Lego actually produced a plastic, full size gun in the late 50s or early 60s. Also there were lighters with the Lego logo on it back then. I too, do not like the idea of weapons in Lego sets, they took a no violence for many years. There were (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) What's the difference in modern weapons versus black powder rifles, pistols, and cannons (even some cannons had spring loaded firing mechanisms) anyway? If you open the door just a little bit, you still opened it. That's like saying you don't (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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In 1953 TLG came out with an early slotted brick 4 page idea brochure. On page 4 of that brochure it shows a LEGO fortified structure with non-LEGO army men. (Dave Shifflett's website): (URL) was the only occurrence that I'm aware of... of LEGO (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I agree that it seems like there is no diference, but I think that most parents would say that their is a difference between kids playing cowboys or pirates, and kids playing war. I personally have nothing against kids playing war. I played (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) If I recall, TLG renounced the "we do not make weapons" philisophy a few years ago, or something to that effect (most notably, prior to the Batman sets). There's a TLG press release about it somewhere (don't have time to find it right now). As (...) (17 years ago, 24-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) It's funny how it's ok for kids to play at cowboys and indians (well, not so much the indians part any more) and pirates, both of which are genres that glorify killing and lawlessness. On the other hand, war (especially WWII which LEGO has had (...) (17 years ago, 25-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Well,funny you'd mention M&Ms, but I do actually avoid red ones. Which I guess might sounds as silly to you. But there's a reason: red ones are not vegetarian. Subtle difference, of course, but it's there to illustrate the semblance of point (...) (17 years ago, 25-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Playing war is fantasy. It is, boiled to its essence, acting out the struggle between good and evil. Generally speaking, fantasy works well the more removed it is from reality. Space wars work great. The distant past works well, too. What (...) (17 years ago, 25-Jan-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Thanks John, I think you put to words what many folks feel, but can't articulate. In the US, WWII, has already reached the level of "myth" for most kids. This is of course an unfortunate by product of a collective refusal to honor history, but (...) (17 years ago, 26-Jan-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) A crying shame really, since WW2 models precisely like those would guarantee them my money. ESPECIALLY M1 Abrahms and Apaches! (Aircraft carriers would rock, too) (17 years ago, 26-Jan-08, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build.military, FTX)
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(...) With all the support material (decals, paints, painting guides out there for the military modeling hobby, its an easy jump to Lego doing a military line. I suspect we are only a few years away from it. (17 years ago, 26-Jan-08, to lugnet.general)
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Hi all, A good, intelligent, and civil debate here, I'm sorry I didn't see it earlier. There is no doubt that LEGO has moved away from their diehard position against violent toys. I'm not sure the new Agents line is really any more military looking (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-08, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build.military)
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I agree with Karl. It makes a big difference which war is being represented. Indiana Jones provides a perfect opportunity to provide vehicles from World War II and the Cold War. LEGO will find them appropriate for their audience for exactly the same (...) (16 years ago, 29-Jun-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Since the start of this thread, I have had a chance to examine the second wave of Indiana Jones sets and the entire Agents line in person and now might be a good time to revisit this thread. It seems like LEGO has a fairly obvious new policy. (...) (16 years ago, 30-Jun-08, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Whose civil war would you choose? Tim (13 years ago, 15-Jan-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) War of the Roses Tim (13 years ago, 16-Jan-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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No no, clearly he means the (URL) Dutch Revolt> with cavalry charges and great siege works throughout the Low Countries. The lawlessness and danger of the "Wild West" but with better clothes and swords! (13 years ago, 16-Jan-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) That's a line I could get behind! Tim (13 years ago, 16-Jan-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) :-) (...) Well, it isn't one you would like to be in front of. ;-) Play well, Jacob (13 years ago, 17-Jan-12, to lugnet.general)
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(...) (URL) Click here and press the button!> (URL) JOHN (13 years ago, 17-Jan-12, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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