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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.admin.general, "Greg Majewski" <citrusx__@yahoo.com> writes:
> > If you look at this situation from how it exists already, you will find that
>
> Oh, believe me, I *have* looked at it...! :-) Been seriously looking at
> this on and off for years...
>
>
> > 99% of the internet's Lego community are civilized adults, the rest being
> > civilized teenagers or whatever, so you don't really have to worry about "gray
> > areas," at least not how I look at it. Sure, some people out there may be loud
> > and annoying, but they aren't offensive or vulgar.
>
> The gray areas I'm thinking of aren't so much the offensive or vulgar things
> (although I'm sure there are some things which are both offensive and gray,
> i.e. mildly offensive), but more so the non-offensive childish and cutesy
> things, which set a tone inconsistent with the more serious and adult nature
> of things here. Some examples again of cutesy screen names:
>
> acidburn, phyrefox, defcon5, neozero, immortal, genepool, pubert, etc.
>
> Now those certainly aren't "gray" to me -- they're way out there in la-la
> land in my book, as they have absolutely nothing to do with anyone's real
> name. (Barf.) But starting from there and going more toward nicknames,
> let's look at some actual gray examples:
>
> We covered "moz" and "cogs" earlier, so forget those; I don't really think
> those are too gray (anyone?) and would be perfectly happy seeing those
> assigned to Chris Moseley and Aaron Coghill, for example. And except for
> the letter change (s to z), Moz is just like Woz (Steve Wozniak's famous
> nickname) as Moz is based quite directly on Chris Moseley's name.
>
> Anyway, here are some examples that do seem gray to me and may need careful
> attention...(these have all been disclosed publicly on LUGNET by their
> owners):
>
> "R2" <=> Rose Regner
> "Ickna" <=> Nick Holdbrooks
> "Misha" <=> Mike Stanley
> "Binky" <=> Neil Ford
> "topher" <=> Chris Adler
> "Mookie" <=> Tamy Teed
> "Zonker" <=> David K. Z. Harris
> "Beaker" <=> James Baker
> "Adamski" <=> Adam McDonagh
> "dulcaoin" <=> Joshua Delahunty
> "Ed Boxer" <=> Ed Jones
> "Weird Richard" <=> Richard Mussler-Wright
>
> Some of these are naturally more gray than others. Take Mike's case, for
> example. He could probably give some good proof that his nickname is based
> on his real name, and that it makes sense, and isn't childish, and isn't a
> "handle" or a "screen name." If it's what people actually call him in
> spoken real-life, and if, for him, it's an actual 'nother name, then that's
> probably not too gray after all, compared to some of the others. Joshua's
> handle is very interesting too, but he can talk about it if he wants. Some
> of the others?-- well, for all we know, David Harris's second middle name
> might actually be Zonker. And "Beaker" is an obvious bastardization of
> Baker, and "topher" is an obvious bastardization of Christopher. Whether
> any of the above would/could/should "pass" is open to debate.
>
> Tamy's case is a particularly gray one...unless her middle name or something
> like that starts with an M, or there is some other deep meaning in the name.
> For example, I once worked with a guy named John Muchow. He's one of the
> friendliest guys in the world, and has a great sense of humor, so he didn't
> mind us making up an endearing nickname for him (which he also happened to
> like and take as his own over time). The history of it: His last name is
> pronounced MUHK-ow, but when he first started on the job, we didn't know
> that; so we all assumed it was MOO-kow. That quickly somehow mutated into
> "Mookie" and stuck for years. The funny thing is, in high school no one
> ever called him Mookie because everyone already knew how to pronounce his
> name, so it never led down that path.
>
> Anyway, so that's an example of a nickname that derives from someone's real
> name. We'd have to know more about Tamy's history to know whether her
> "Mookie" handle derives from her real name or from something else. So that
> makes that one a fairly gray area. That's another problem with nicknames of
> that particular type, BTW -- they're always likely to be in use by several
> different people simultaneously, sometimes even the opposite biological
> gender.
>
> Now here are some other examples -- things that _don't_ seem gray to me --
> in terms of member-ID's and in the scheme describe in the previous post,
> they all clearly fall on the "fail" side of things in my mind... (all of
> these associations have also been disclosed publicly on LUGNET by their
> owners):
>
> "Rufus T. Falkenstein" <=> Dietmar Stüver
> "Perhaps a Princess" <=> Sarah Heacock
> "Full Metal Monty" <=> Greg Cont
> "Lord Insanity" <=> Mike Petrucelli
> "Mirror Spock" <=> Kai-Arne Reiter
> "OptimusPrime" <=> Alex Sack
> "Mike Fusion" <=> Michael Nickasch
> "Green Alien" <=> Jorge Fernandez
> "GitD_Ghost" <=> Frank Athens
> "GearMonkey" <=> Robert Eddings
> "hansolo843" <=> Danny Lynam
> "legomenace" <=> Charles Spindell
> "TooMuchDew" <=> William Toenjes
> "The Undead" <=> Scott Javoroski
> "NumberSix" <=> Colin Bell
> "Kirk Unit" <=> Kirk Houser
> "Carbon 60" <=> Simon Denscombe
> "citrusx__" <=> Greg Majewski
Oh! Oh! I can explain this one! My last name is pronounced muh-JEH-skee, but
people always say muh-JOOS-kee, which led to the nickname Juice for me. Also,
my favorite color is orange which led some people to call me Orange Juice,
which let to Citrus somehow. When I registered in Yahoo!, the name Citrus was
already taken, so I have been using CitrusX for about three years, and that's
what the internet's non-Lego community has called me... Oh well, this may be
irrelivant (sp?) because I am planning on using my RTL alias of Mmaje if I
join. I do hope that everyone can see where I got that one..
Greg
citrusx__@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/1888/
> "RoninSFX" <=> Peter Abrahamson
> "Nephilim" <=> Jeff Thompson
> "Dengar98" <=> Pearson Castner
> "Lorbaat" <=> Eric Joslin
> "HTMLPro" <=> Chris Alas
> "Gemlord" <=> Chris Thompson
> "MadMax" <=> Mark Rideout
> "Baylit" <=> Jon Kozan
> "Izzy98" <=> Israel Alanis
> "ExitG" <=> Carrie Whitcher
> "Codex" <=> Kevin Calman
> "tanis" <=> Michael Cortez
> "quozl" <=> Jonathan Nichol
> "Eggy" <=> Tyler Harms
> "Onyx" <=> Jeff Boen
> "Wydd" <=> Dan Solum
> "Vega" <=> Selvi Francesco
> "Ice" <=> Mark Koeberl
> "TFM" <=> Dean Husby
>
> Those are all fun names, of course, and these people could all *certainly*
> continue to use these "handles" as they currently do in the newsgroups --
> we're not talking here about changing anything anything -- just about how to
> move forward.
>
> To create member-ID's with pure "handles" or "screen names" like that is to
> start down the AOL path (see previous post). So this last group wouldn't
> pass (not that it necessarily should -- handles are *far* more capricious
> than real-life names).
>
> If it turns out that people are going to be *really* upset that they can't
> necessarily use their traditional favorite "handle" or "screen name" or
> alias as their LUGNET member-ID, then using purely numbers as member-ID's is
> probably the best all-around approach, since there's no way for anyone to
> get upset at those (is there?). On the other hand, if a few people do get
> really upset with the scheme outlined above, then that's probably OK if 98%
> or 99% of everyone else is OK with it.
>
> The whole thing is a compromise, after all.
>
> BTW, sometimes people have last names that appear on the surface to be
> made-up, but are actually their real-life name. Consider Tané Tachyon of
> Tachyon Labs, for example... A "tachyon" particle is something made-up for
> Star Trek, but Tachyon actually her real last name. Isn't that cool? :-)
>
> --Todd
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