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Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Tommy Armstrong

(...) The web is wonderful but it ain't permanent or free. If the people who use brickshelf think so much of it (and I have always been impressed with it), then they should be willing to pay for a subscription to upload and download images. Or have (...) (19 years ago, 27-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Rick Clark

(...) I'd certainly be for micropayments for uploading images. I don't know how many images are uploaded each day/week/month, but at $.01 each, I should think the income might add up, yet wouldn't break anybody. It'd be nice to keep the ability to (...) (19 years ago, 28-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Sonnich Jensen

(...) Agreed. I havent looked much at maj.com, but there are tonnes of other pictures than lego. Micropayments on Bricklink could be the way. But - my opinion - it should be by used storages. Some people upload _huge_ pictures of sizes of e.g. 1MB - (...) (19 years ago, 30-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Bryan Wong

(...) Yes I would also support a free to view, pay to upload system on Brickshelf. I don't know how much work it would take to implement this, but you could have a monthly, quarterly, and/or annual subscription fee that may give you (un)limited (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Samarth Moray

(...) I think that this is a very important point. IMHO big images are just a waste of bandwidth (people get frustruated anyway when they realise the dimensions of the image, and hit back in disgust) as well as space. Also, delete unused accounts, (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Bryan Wong

(...) Hmm that's a good point. But I wasn't really trying to "weed people out" so I may have sent the wrong message! (...) Yeah that's a possibility - but the key point is that LUGNET memberships are lifetime memberships (if I remember correctly). (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Leonard Hoffman

(...) This has already happened. More and more, when people get serious about the online community, they get their own website(1). In order to keep up-to-date on MOCs, etc, I usually check four or five websites a day. -Lenny (1)= For example, (URL) (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Joe Strout

(...) That's very unfortunate, though. As Jason pointed out, it's easy enough to host your own pictures -- but there are great advantages to having them all in one place. When I want to find a good idea for making a sofa, for example, I go to (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Nathan Wells

(...) I swore not to get into this discussion, but... I am one of the persons who fall into the catagory of someone who owns their own LEGO-related website ((URL)). I made this site when I wanted something easier to customize than MOCpages or (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Joe Strout

(...) Well, that's a fine policy, unless BrickShelf is going away (or going to stop accepting new pictures or whatever). Kevin still hasn't been very clear on that. But if it does, then we need to think up a new solution. Best, Joe (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Samarth Moray

(...) Actually, (URL) sort of already does that, but in a much less comprehensive way. Legoswami (19 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Ross Crawford

(...) That's true, but I for one still put my pics on Brickshelf, and link there from my site. This is partly because Northstar's free web hosting has a 100MB limit, but mostly because I like the idea of people being able to also search my gallery (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Ray Sanders

(...) I agree, but for a slightly different reason. Try living where broadband simply isn't available. There are still places in the US (and other countries I'm sure) that have not yet received broadband rollout. Try clicking on one of those (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Kelly McKiernan

(...) I can see some times when people will want a high-resolution version available... but for the most part, when browsing (a big purpose for Brickshelf), it's best to have an optimized image, say no bigger than 800 pixels in any dimension. There (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Sonnich Jensen

My comments for now: ALE - it is not here - (URL) idea what ALE is, I do know what a AFOL is. How about a free account with a certain amount of free pictures? That way one can have some few pictures there, and sort them if one wants to keep the (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —David Eaton

(...) It's a new acronym that's being tossed around to replace 'AFOL'-- ALE = "Adult Lego Enthusiast" (...) I don't think disk space is really the issue so much as bandwidth. IIRC he filled up 2 T1's easily, which ain't cheap. People use BrickShelf (...) (19 years ago, 1-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Joe Strout

(...) I'm not sure what a Bionicle avatar is, but I do agree that bandwidth is likely the major expense. (...) Right. And, while I'm not disparaging Kevin's efforts -- Brickshelf has been a valuable service to the community for years -- its (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Andrew Cross

(...) Outside linking to images could be something to cut out. (...) What about a free will funds drive like Peeron did? That seemed to work out for them. Is it feasible? (...) This would definitely drop the BandWidth cost. Most internet providers (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!! —Clark Stephens

(...) Brickshelf is already set up to accept monetary contributions. Details here: (URL) may donate with Paypal or mailed payment. Kevin even gives contributors some perks: 1) No adverts are shown to any veiwers of your folders ever. No adverts are (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!! —Joe Strout

(...) That's assuming that money is the problem. I'm not convinced of that, and Kevin certainly hasn't said so. In fact, he's said very little of anything at all, except that he may stop accepting uploads at some point. Of course I am only guessing, (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!! —Clark Stephens

(...) Umm, excuse me? To quote from here: (URL) to the loss of our major sponsor,..." Exactly what English definition of sponsor are you using? Clark PS As for 'interest', the galleries are still online, the approvals of member's pictures are still (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!! —Joe Strout

(...) Let's fill in the rest, shall we? "Due to the loss of our major sponsor, Instruction and Catalog scans are no longer available at Brickshelf.com." That says absolutely nothing about the (IMHO) more important issue of user pictures on (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!! —Clark Stephens

(...) He has: (2 URLs) I don’t think fundrasing drives are a viable long-term option (we need somewhat reliable monthly cashflow), we certainly will not turn away impromptu sponsors!" Clark (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: Supporting Brickshelf so it doesn't go away!!! —Leonard Hoffman

(...) Both of those are passive requests. In the same vein, I'm always interested in getting free money, but that isn't the same like saying 'I'm broke and need to get some cash. I'm going to sell my Collection to make money.' I think what Joe is (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Joe Strout

(...) ALE is Adult Lego Enthusiast, a newer (and preferred by at least some) term over AFOL. It's easier to pronounce as an acronym, sounds less stilted when you say it in words, and is generally more accurate too. See (URL) for the thread where it (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Scott Lyttle

(...) I dare say in some cases it could possibly mean "Adult LEGO Extremist"... Scott (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Rob Hendrix

ALE is Adult Lego Enthusiast, a newer (and preferred by at least some) term over AFOL. It's easier to pronounce as an acronym, sounds less stilted when you say it in words, and is generally more accurate too. See (URL) for the thread where it was (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —John Neal

(...) Renaming be damned! I like old-school, old-time. (Eddie Shore!) Signed, An AFOL who builds MOCs who also may be a Curmudgeon, JOHN (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Dave Schuler

(...) To purists, I barely qualify as an "AFOL," but even I agree that that term is preferable to "ALE." AFOL has history behind it, and its creation was organic, rather than deliberate, and it therefore has greater aesthetic appeal to me on those (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Joe Strout

(...) So, you like it better because there was little thought behind it? Next you'll be saying you voted for Bush. :) (...) Some people spell it out, but even that isn't very euphonic -- unlike the other initialisms you mention, AFOL when spelled (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —John Neal

(...) Ahem, Joe, but they were mocking your hobby choice, not your title! :-) (...) I've always preferred "lush", but "wine taster" isn't much better. (...) Don't be surprised if they still laugh:-) (...) Joe, terms like "AFOL" are "in-house", part (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Dave Schuler

(...) Holy moley, them's fightin' words! (...) I don't know. I can think of all kinds of abbreviations that don't snuggle into the ear all that pleasantly. The Society for Creative Anachronisms (The SCA, which sounds like ESS-YAY) is one such (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —David Eaton

(...) Huh-- I almost never say "fan of Lego" or "AFOL" to people who aren't in the hobby, because it just doesn't give them a good frame of reference. I think I've always said "Lego Hobbyist" because that's what people understand. Usually "fan" is (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Johannes Koehler

Hello! (...) I say "eta" (That's a terror organization in the Spanish Basque region.) or E-T-A (meaning "estimated time of arrival"), R-S-V-P (what the heck is it?) and U-S-A. But I say "afol" and "mock" and "burp" because: (...) Or does anybody say (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)

Re: what is ALE? —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Hi JoJo! (...) Respondez Sil Vous Plait (1) HTH! ++Lar (can we pick one FUT? I think .people but what do I know?) 1 - IIRC(2)... it's French or something for "get back to me whether you are coming to my party or not because I need to know how (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)

Re: what is ALE? —Johannes Koehler

Hello! (...) Merci beaucoup! (...) I posted to .general because I wrote about something LEGO-related. And to .debate because it was debate-ish. (...) Yeah, thanks, I'm coming to that party! Would you pay for my taxi? (...) How do you pronounce (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: what is ALE? —Larry Pieniazek

(...) Taxi OR beer, whichever's less. I guess... Assuming I have any money left after BF... Apparently some rumor got started that I'm buying rounds at Rocklands??? Gonna be hard to pull off because Nik'll be with me again this year and I don't (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: what is ALE? —Rob Hendrix

(...) Crap, there's always a catch isn't there? Rob (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: what is ALE? —John Neal

(...) What a strange person! Acros are to save time typing, neh? So, why wouldn't one voice it out "in one's head"? Whenever I read an acro, I unsuffit. Unless a person is too important and their time too valuable to take that extra nanosecond or (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Larry Pieniazek

(...) The voices in my head talk slowly, so that I can understand what they are saying... apparently yours don't, and talk so fast that you're getting garbled messages? That certainly would explain a lot! (...) Yep, that's me all right... (19 years ago, 6-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Rob Hendrix

(...) Of all the people who *could* have responded to [JOHN], I knew you would be the first (if not the only) to chime in and say that. You're becoming too easy to read. Time to change your modus operandi... Rob (19 years ago, 7-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

Re: what is ALE? —Darrell Urbien

(...) I've often had to descibe myself and what I do in my class to school administrators, and I always use "Adult LEGO Fan", which I suppose would be ALF but I know you guys don't wanna be ALFs! Usually when I describe the community (especially the (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Kevin Blocksidge

In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: (snip) (...) (snip) Whenever I read "IMO" I pronounce it in my noggin as "ih-my-oh" all fluidlike, one word. Ihmyoh. The "ih" is like the beginning of "idiot", the "my" is just like the word, and the (...) (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —John Neal

(...) (URL) lol> I'm trying to push "neoilluminati" but it isn't taking:-( Maybe "Legoluminati"? Just trying to help. JOHN (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —John Neal

(...) Methinks he doth protest too much. Out with it-- that dirty little secret will eat you alive, Dave! <snip> (...) It may have been a little wily, but I categorically deny any nilly! If it ain't OT yet, I'll make it so, number 1! (FUTOTF) JOHN (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Joe Strout

(...) OK, that was a low blow, I apologize! (...) Heh, true in that case, but that's because trains have become widely accepted as an adult hobby. LEGO has not. (...) Yes, and they'll be thinking: "This guy plays with LEGOs? Does he still live with (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Gerhard R. Istok

(...) It certainly is interesting following this thread..... I was a secret "AFOL/ALE" from 1980-86. No internet, no knowledge of any other adult who even cared about Lego. I was in the proverbial "Lego Closet" for all those years. Then 4 things (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Dave Schuler

(...) That's a good point. If I were to hear a child described as "into trains," I would just assume that it meant Thomas, or maybe that he liked to watch his parents' train sets. More than being "accepted" as an adult hobby, I'd guess that it's a (...) (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Eric Strand

(...) Dave, I got a good chuckle out of your knucklehead comments. Very funny! Eric (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? —Ross Crawford

(...) LOL, probably won't help much against a good sharp broadsword either... ROSCO (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Kevin Blocksidge

(...) "mock" is already a word, so I propose we pronounce it like "smoke" and "choke" ~Kevoh (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Andrew Cross

(...) I could write: AFOL whose LEGOs are MOC'ed And my spell check gives: A fool whose legs are mocked. (19 years ago, 3-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: what is ALE? (was Re: Brickshelf going away???) —Tim David

(...) (URL) Moke> is also already a word, its a type of open (URL) Mini> tim (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

RE: What is ALE? —Scott Lyttle

(...) I thought ALE was a particular type of alcoholic libation. I don't drink much, so I don't know the difference between, say.. Stout, Ale, Beer, etc.. Scott (19 years ago, 2-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: What is ALE? —Dave Johann

(...) Scott, you've just pointed out why I don't care for that acronym. AFOL is fine by me! -Dave (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general)

Re: What is ALE? —John Neal

(...) I thought ALE was a warm place reserved for agnostics like Dave! JOHN (trying to keep up with your barbarisms, Dave!) (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: What is ALE? —Gerhard R. Istok

(...) Why don't we use "Adult Hobbyist Of Lego" or AHOL! After all we are all AHOLs once in a while! :-p Gary Istok (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)

Re: What is ALE? —Adrian Egli

(...) That is the best yet!!!!!!! Adr. (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)

Re: What is ALE? —John Neal

(...) ROTFLMAHOLO! Good one, Gary! :-) JOHN (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)

Re: What is ALE? —Dave Schuler

(...) Hey, leave my haircut out of this. Dave! (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)

Re: What is ALE? —John Neal

(...) Shear thing, Dave! JOHN (19 years ago, 4-Jun-05, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Jason Spears

(...) Maybe I'm in the minority, but I would not be willing to pay $0.02 or even $0.01 per picture I put on Brickshelf. With that pricing scheme, I'd much sooner setup my own domain and pay for a website hosting. (...) I'd be suprised if anyone (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —Bryan Wong

(...) I guess the main point I'm trying to make (and not doing such a good job about it) is that we're trying to come up with ways to help pay for Brickshelf without having all of the costs coming out of the owner's pocket directly. The ideal system (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general, FTX)

Re: Brickshelf going away??? —David Eaton

(...) I think the issue has always been that it just doesn't work in practice. I mean sure, I wouldn't mind paying a penny per picture, but actually having to go through both paypal AND the upload process, I dunno. It would create more of a bother. (...) (19 years ago, 31-May-05, to lugnet.general)