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Re: I hate MOCPages
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lugnet.general
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Tue, 7 Sep 2004 19:55:40 GMT
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Sorry for the late reply on this thread ... I was away for a long holiday
weekend.
The reviewing mechanism on MOCpages was meant to be that - for reviews. I
created it as a means for people to offer praise and/or constructive criticism.
Want to chat? Use LUGNET.
The reviews, unfortunately, have the ability to be mis-used as a chatroom or a
message board, which was not the intent. Many of the teens from BZpower.com or
the folks from here on LUGNET are used to a less static means of communication.
When "reviews" are written that clearly are not reviews, I delete them. You would be amazed at how many people just write things like "i can do better", or "you suck", or "legos? get a life", or even simply "where are the pictures". There were even a few rude things directed at Anthony Sava after his message here on LUGNET.
The root of the tension in this thread is a result of volume: I couldn't
possibly moderate every review - there are thousands of them. So, instead,
MOCpages automatically "holds" the reviews that it considers questionable (based
on a set of keyword matches and other criteria) and I review them myself every
few hours.
I delete the bad ones before you even see them... While I believe in the
preservation of free speech, I do not condone cowardly attacks in a community
built upon toys, lightheardedness, and creativity. Reviews that are indeed
"reviews" are then censored by removing vulgarity or slander before being made
public.
The moderation process was not up-and-running when MOCpages was new, so vulgar,
rude, and attacking reviews from a year ago might still be up there. Let me
know if you have them on your site and I will look into it.
I've considered granting MOCpages account holders the ability to delete these
reviews from their pages themselves, but (as someone here mentioned) I am afraid
that people would abuse this right. More importantly, it does not prevent the
hurt that can be done to a very young child when a someone comes in and vulgarly
insults their creations. ("Stop building, you are awful" is a popular theme in
a lot of reviews.) With that, MOCpages would become something that parents
disallow for their children. So, someone still needs to "pre screen" things.
Also, I won't "force" people to create MOCpages accounts just to write a review.
The most compelling reason is the one that Spencer pointed out -- many of the
people that visit MOCpages are not part of the LEGO community. They surf in via
Google, or from blogs and "cool site of the day" links. I wanted to create a
mechanism that does not shun "outsiders". ... and people will very rarely go
through a "registration" process unless they really want to or have to. And
most of the most sincere reviews come from people who don't know about our
little world.
So... I still maintain that if there are reviews that you want deleted, just
e-mail me and I'll look into it. I've already gone and deleted the offending
reviews mentioned in this thread (did I miss any?), and a few dozen bogus pages
that that "Joker" guy created the other day.
Oh, and as a side note, I wanted to thank the three people that donated to
MOCpages this weekend. http://www.mocpages.com/about/donors.php (I can only
assume the dontations were spurred by this thread, because I usually don't get
any.) I spend about $100 each month out-of-pocket to host MOCpages, and I
really appreciate when folks help out.
Sean
MOCpages Administrator
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| (...) What about granting the ability to turn on and off the review mechanism completely? Personally, though I'm gratified by praise for my MOCs, I really could get along without the whole thing. People can still send feedback to a contact addy if (...) (20 years ago, 7-Sep-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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| Now before you climb up onto your high horse, let me begin by saying I love MOCpages, and I think Sean Kenney is doing the community a great service. But I hate the users on MOCpages, at least a few of them. Since I've joined, but over the last six (...) (20 years ago, 2-Sep-04, to lugnet.general) !!
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