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Subject: 
Re: Color Change - Final Update
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle
Date: 
Thu, 6 May 2004 13:03:28 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Jake McKee wrote:
   In lugnet.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:

   Ironic that the brick packages in Old Grey made available for fans was the first time those packages were available in several years. Also, making a minfig pack based on fan suggestions is only now being proposed. It’s as if only now, when TLG does such a bad thing, do they honestly begin asking for what we’d like and giving it to us.

Umm.. You list several things twice - or in two categories (ie. “Countless Legends Sets” and “Guarded Inn”, “Black Falcon’s Fortress”). Several of those are just sets (UCS ISD and RBR) - and I can hardly count those as fitting of the bill of “asking for what we’d like and giving it to us.” If you count those, then why not count all sets ever? Because I buy those as much or more than the special offerings!

And I’m not trying to say LEGO has never done anything in our favor, but usually it is from a top-down approach rather than a down-top approach. Meaning, TLG gives us a Legend Set, and the Community collectively wonders how/why that Legend Set was selected. Some Fans have valid complaints or suggestions that never get really listened to because those thoughts are added after the decisions have been made.

Now that you’re asking us what pieces should be continually made in Old-Grey colors - well, now I feel like I’m being able to add my voice to the mix BEFORE the decision is made - thus, I have the ability to effect what that change is.

I think it is fairly clear why this is happening: TLG was amazed by the Fan back-lash against the New-Grey and is interested in getting with the Fans to produce some sort of compromise. This is a wonderful thing, of which I am so happy to see - I just find it ironic that this level of interaction wasn’t possible before.


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Well, besides the - MOT sets - Santa Fe sets - Metroliner - Club Car - Guarded Inn - Black Falcon’s Fortress - USS Constellation - Countless other various Legends sets - Legends voting - Blacksmith Shop MOC - Santa Fe Cars MOC - Current Bulk Program - PaB - Imperial Star Destoyer - Rebel Blockade Runner - UCS Snowspeeder - Wright Flyer - Sopwith Camel - Red Baron - Shell sets - Seasonal sets (turkey, pumpkin, US flag, Christmas ornaments, etc.) - Statue of Liberty - Minifig Sculpture - Darth Maul bust - Special purchasing deals - LEGO Mosaic - Last shot of Cypress trees - ...and whatever else I have up my sleeve

Other than that, you’re right, we don’t list much! :)

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Some of this stuff only really affects the “rich AFOLs” (like the high cost UCS sets, the Bulk Deal, etc)- people who can spend several hundred dollars in one sitting. Most AFOLs at Lugnet would fit that bill, I’m sure. But most of my LEGO spending is in the $20-50 range, with occasional exceptions of me saving up for the ISD or getting a bonus from work.

Other things on this list are area specific - such as PaBs. PaBs are great things, but if you don’t live near a LEGO store then it really doesn’t help you at all. If something like a true PaB was made available through SAH - then it would go from Great to ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!! because it would affect not just a few Fans but all Fans. I know this isn’t really something that is possible, but I think the point is valid.

Let me re-state my point: I’m not talking about the cool things TLG does for Fans, but the act of actively involving Fans in the decision making process.

Oh, and I suppose someone my point out the Legends vote - my rebuttal - It was a forced choice between five sets. Forced choice doesn’t equate with a open-ended question like “What Parts should we keep making in Old Grey?” - which is the difference between quasi-voice and a true voice in decisions.

-Lenny



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(...) < Begin Humorous Sarcasm > Well, besides the - MOT sets - Santa Fe sets - Metroliner - Club Car - Guarded Inn - Black Falcon's Fortress - USS Constellation - Countless other various Legends sets - Legends voting - Blacksmith Shop MOC - Santa (...) (21 years ago, 6-May-04, to lugnet.general, lugnet.lego, lugnet.castle)  

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