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In lugnet.general, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
> G'day,
> I'm posting this warning as a result of an auction run several months ago by
> this individual [The auction was run on Lugnet:
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.market.auction:5611
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.market.auction:5667
> http://www.lugnet.com/news/display.cgi?lugnet.market.auction:5687
> and finished on the 5th of May.]
>
> Since the end of this auction several people have sent payment to this
> individual, and, from what I have heard [1] there doesn't seem to have been
> a buyer who got what they paid for [or in quite a few cases...got anything
> at all!] After repeatedly trying to contact him, another bidder [ Andreas
> Stabno] in similar circumstances started contacting all succesful bidders
> from this auction to see whether his parcel had become lost in transit or
> something. He had also had the experience of his emails not receiving
> replys. Due to a large number of bidders not having received their items
> from this auction, he decided to send a registered letter to Dave on August
> 19. Today he received the letter back in the post, "with a big "Refused"
> stamped on the front".
> The following is a copy of this letter [which Dave obviously hasn't read, as
> it was returned "refused"]:
> "
> August 19, 2000
> Dave McWilliams
> 102 Grosvenor House
> Ashton-under-Lyne
> Tameside
> Lancashire OL7 OSB
> ENGLAND
> I have become very concerned regarding the status of our Lego deal. Since I
> have sent you $96 on 5/6/2000 for Lego set #5590, you have confirmed on
> 5/10/2000 that the money arrived. Since then I have neither received my
> package nor any communication from you. I have repeatedly emailed you and am
> now formally writing to demand either the set that you had promised or a
> return of my money.
> The following individuals from your auction responded that they were also
> dissatisfied with you:
> * Jan-Albert van Ree received #6542, #6833, and #6923, but #6542 was
> missing over 20 parts including two minifigs. You promised in an email on
> May 29 that you would try to find the missing parts, but you have not
> responded to Jan-Albert since then even though he has sent at least 5 email
> messages to you in the meantime.
> * Jason Small received #6887, #6973, and #6981. The sets were missing
> a few pieces.
> * Benjamin Whytcross sent money for sets #6667, and #6813 and has
> neither received them nor heard from you.
> * Tim Strutt sent $60 for #6351, #6544, #6335 and has neither received
> them nor heard from you.
> * Ashley Glennon received his sets. I have not asked him whether they
> were complete.
> * I will contact Phil Sutton to see if he received his set.
> In 1997 an individual from Leicestershire scammed a number
> of Lego collectors by accepting their money and refusing to send the sets
> that he had promised. We contacted the authorities who then took him into
> custody. If you wish to fulfill your obligations, I request that you call me
> immediately to explain the situation and how you will rectify these deals.
> If I do not hear from you very soon, I am prepared to take legal action and
> contact these same authorities.
> Andreas Stabno
> "
> As a result of this, we would like to also ask if there is anyone who lives
> in the same area as Dave who could either:
> 1) contact him, and get him to carry out his side of the auction [eg...get
> him to post the sets (and missing parts where applicable)]
> OR
> 2) Assist us in talks with the constabulary in his area with the aim of
> getting our sets/parts or money back. [If anyone can remember the site where
> the info about the RTL'er who tried a similar thing, this would also be of
> use.[2]] If there is no-one in this area, then Andreas does have the snail
> mail address and phone number of the Greater
> Manchester Police department, but he would rather here from someone in the
> UK first if possible.
>
> I realise that for some bidders they may be able to write off the loss of
> whatever amount they sent, but in my case it was a reasonable percentage of
> my monthly lego budget [which isn't large, admittedly], and I would prefer
> to have something to show for it (besides which, one of the sets I got was
> for my brother who has an even smaller budget.)
>
> Thanks to all for reading and for any assistance they may be able to give.
> [1] Courtesy of Andreas' emails to other bidders.
> [2] Todd, would it be possible to have a link to this site [if still up] on
> the market page to warn fraudulent sellers of the consequences of this sort
> of action to stop it getting to this stage again?
>
>
> Benjamin Whytcross
> BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
> Ph: (03) 9856 5282
> Directory Technology Pty Ltd
> 1/436 Elgar Road,
> Box Hill, 3128
>
> Growing older is compulsory..Growing up isn't :-)
^Especially in his case ;-)
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