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Re: A new scan for 371 (fake?)
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Sun, 21 May 2000 21:05:44 GMT
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Hi

I just receive a set from USA. The number is NUMBER 3.  The first page have a
photo of a car and two trucks. ANd the instructins for it. (4 step
instructions each). The picture of it are the same bad quality that the 371.
It have mistaques and have a name for each car in black like 371. The names
are.

Mini-wheel dump truck
Soda Truck
Sports car

The models have the mini wheels that all we know in new sets, only that the
rubber is softer (really softer) and the axle is in aluminium (I think it
becasue are the only one that not have rust). The set came with a big lot, and
is possible build with old parts (the parts with the old LEGO logo, the 90°
letters logo)


You can´t see this model in lugnet, or brickshelf, like 371.


I think this set (number 3) and 371 is autenthic, only I thought like other
guy is an early indepent samsonite try for USA models.



In lugnet.general, Tim Courtney writes:
And...a search on Lugnet comes up with 2 answers for 371, a Tipper
Truck, and a Sea Plane.  No semi truck.  Interesting...

-Tim

In lugnet.general "Whytcross, Benjamin"
<BWhytcro@pacificaccess.com.au> wrote:

To put in my 2 cents...I'd say the set is a fake. My reasoning is:

1) Step 1 uses a 2x2 corner plate, which I don't believe were available
then. [It is also shown as a 2x2 plate here]
2) In step 2 this piece changes shape into 2 2x1's
3) Step 4 apparently uses a 2x3 plate with center pin for helicopter rotor,
but it wouldn't be possible to attatch this piece here
4) The sleeper cab on the truck changes width between steps (step 2 and 3
there are 2 3x2 cab halves, step 4 there are 2 3x3 halves [look at the
section added in step 2, then at the same saction in step 3, and then in
step 4.]
5) The colour change from blue to white on the 2 2x8 bricks between steps 6
and 7 [I know this did occasionally happen, but not generally over the whole
of a piece this size. Generally it only happened on small sections of a
part.]
6) The inclusion of instructions for self-steering models...WHY? There were
no steering parts used in the model, so why bother adding instructions for
their use?

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

Benjamin Whytcross
BWhytcro@PacificAccess.com.au
Ph: (03) 9856 5282
Directory Technology Pty Ltd
1/436 Elgar Road,
Box Hill, 3128

Growing older is compulsory..Growing up isn't :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Reinhard "Ben" Beneke [mailto:r.beneke@tu-bs.de]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 5:13 AM
To: lugnet.general@lugnet.com
Subject: Re: A new scan for 371 (fake?)


In lugnet.general, Will Hess writes:
I'd have to agree that this is a fake.  My reasons:
1)  Instructions are too crude, even by 60's standards. • Also, have a look
at the following URL...it's supposed to be another page from the same
booklet but the quality is many times greater!

Yes, because that's a set sold in whole europe (probably made
in Denmark),
while set 371 might be UK only... I know thats a weak argument.

Is that enough to convince any fence sitters?

Have you notices the 3studs over edge plate in step one? In
the next step thatt
might be a 2x2x0.33 and in the third a 1x1x0.33 plus a
2x1x0.33 combination....

Why is there a wheel used as bogie, although there heve been the 4x4x1
turntables (like used in 1966th set 113?

Why no 6x24 plates, but two 6x12 ones?

A lot of questions and no reaction from the one who "scanned"
the set....

totally confused,

Ben





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  Re: A new scan for 371 (fake?)
 
And...a search on Lugnet comes up with 2 answers for 371, a Tipper Truck, and a Sea Plane. No semi truck. Interesting... -Tim (...) (24 years ago, 18-May-00, to lugnet.general)

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