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Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:02:34 GMT
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Mike Stanley wrote:

> Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > Tom Stangl, VFAQman wrote:
> > > 
> > > Actually, NO, with the available evidence (i.e. NOTHING said from TLC so far), it
> > > is correct, not wishful thinking.
> > 
> > We have ONE point of reasonably solid information in this subject:
> > 
> > We have a statement from a TLC employee that they could be FIRED for
> > showing a consumer the retailers catalog.
> 
> NO.  We have a report from another person that a Lego employee said
> that.  I've been told lots of things by store employees, and trust
> me, you shouldn't _always_ believe what someone making low money to
> stand on their feet all days says when it involves doing something
> out of the ordinary on the job.
> 
> Now am I saying that the AFOL misunderstood?  Heck no.  Am I saying
> the Lego employee was less than truthful?  Not really.
> 
> But "Oh, I can't do that - I'd get in trouble" is a fairly common
> excuse for just about anything that doesn't fit into one's normal
> activities.
> 
> So pardon me if I don't accept the word of some part-time young
> person (all the employees *I* saw at the Disney Lego store were
> kids) as absolute gospel when it comes to OFFICIAL Lego policy.
> Does that mean it isn't true?  Nope.  I think that means we haven't
> really officially heard from TLC on the issue - just like we haven't
> heard from them officially on a LOT of issues that people seem to
> accept as ok.
> 
> Oh, and for the record, I keep seeing reference to "well, this set
> number and info were given out to the public over the phone at such
> and such time" with respect to the Star Wars bucket thing.  Again,
> not calling that statement untrue, but I'd have to point out that I
> and Larry and Tom S. have ALL gotten S@H reps to tell us things that
> they probably don't tell just everyone - either openly or just in
> casual conversation.  So, in my mind, the above might contain just a
> tad bit of convenient rationalization as well. :)

However, if the rep doesn't preface some tidbit with "don't spread this around", or
similar, I try to remember to ASK.  I have kept things in confidence many times when
ASKED.  It's common courtesy.  I'm waiting for TLC to ASK or TELL us what they'd prefer
on this.


> > But there is also a hidden significant item. The two fan sites which
> > stretch the "fair use" clause the most, are also very restrained, and
> > would never consider publishing this information.
> > 
> > Think about that. What is the possibility that Brickshelf and Pause are
> > allowed to exist because the editors of those resources have
> > consistently shown restraint, and respect of TLC's intellectual
> > property?
> 
> More speculation, I say.
> 
> > The way I read TLC's position is that restrained and respectfull use of
> > their intellectual property (which implies not publishing information
> > "too early") wins their respect, and the biggest element of that respect
> > is allowing such use to continue.
> 
> Ok, that's how you read it.  I read it a little differently.  And I,
> for one, don't really think different interpretations of SILENCE is
> a useful measurement of how we should view the actions of some
> AFOL's - some as GOOD and RESPECTFUL and others as BAD and
> DISRESPECTFUL.  Think about it - some of us are actually listening
> to the SILENCE and getting from it and some assumptions that "this
> is ok" and "this is not".  Sounds like a lot of crystal ball
> nonsense to me.

--
| Tom Stangl, Technical Support          Netscape Communications Corp
|      Please do not associate my personal views with my employer



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  Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
 
(...) NO. We have a report from another person that a Lego employee said that. I've been told lots of things by store employees, and trust me, you shouldn't _always_ believe what someone making low money to stand on their feet all days says when it (...) (27 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.general)

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