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Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
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Date: 
Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:33:35 GMT
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Are you so convinced that it's such a horrible thing to post those scans?  I
threw them up a little while ago because I'm trying to make some die-hard
lego fans happy, and those tiny little pictures give us an adequate idea of
the lineup with no real specifics. :)

Does that make me a loser?

--


Paul Davidson

Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message
news:384dff31.64162272@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.general, "Lawrence Wilkes" <lawrence_wilkes@msn.com> writes:
> > [...]
> > So far, I have not seen any requests (at least in public) to have these • other
> > sites remove their scans, yet they are announcing their existence • through
> > exactly the same channels as did Huw originally.
> 
> Huw made a mistake, but he also had the intelligence to realize this and • the
> moral integrity to do something about it.
> 
> I don't think you're going to see many requests from people asking other
> sites to remove the scans because at this point anyone who hosts public
> copies of the scans obviously doesn't give a rat's reeking behind about • the
> publicity rights of the LEGO Company, or about embarassing the whole AFOL
> community in front of LEGO.
> 
> 
> > So Huw puts in the hard work, and everyone else gets the hits.
> 
> This wasn't about Huw and it certainly isn't about hits.  This is about
> "playing fair" and about having the basic common decency to respect the
> rights of a company whose toys have brought us all so much joy over the
> years.
> 
> And how do you figure that making illegal scans of non-consumer • materials --
> prior to product launch no less! -- is "putting in hard work"?  It's • theft,
> pure and simple.  Whoever scanned those images for Huw should be ashamed • of
> themselves, not proud.
> 
> Is this what our rotten mixed up society rewards these days?
> 
> :-/
> 
> 
> > So rather than have effect that the folks who asked for them to be • removed
> > had in mind, there is now 10 times as much publicity and many more sites
> > hosting the pictures they sought to remove
> 
> I think you've missed the point of all of this in a big way.  The point
> isn't to remove the scans as quickly as possible (although that's • certainly
> the best way for someone to save face), and *of course* they're going to • pop
> up again lots of other places -- for every one decent self-respecting • person
> like Huw there are probably five losers out there who don't care what
> happens.  The point is that the adult LEGO community needs to realize that
> it is *harming* itself, rather than helping itself, by stunts like this.
> 
> 
> > as Sir Cliff Richard has found, the best way to get to number one in the
> > charts is to get your record banned (sorry only the brits will • understand)
> 
> That's a very poor analogy.
> 
> Getting a book banned gets it noticed more, and that makes a difference
> because it's hard enough already for books to get noticed.
> 
> With this stuff, on the other hand, it gets noticed just as much either • way,
> because it has absolutely no trouble getting noticed:  it's automatically
> the most important news of the day, if not the whole week.
> 
> --Todd



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  Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
 
(...) In my opinion, yes. --Todd (27 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.general)

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  Re: 2000 Dealer catalogue Removal Request Backfire?
 
(...) Huw made a mistake, but he also had the intelligence to realize this and the moral integrity to do something about it. I don't think you're going to see many requests from people asking other sites to remove the scans because at this point (...) (27 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.general)

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