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Re: Hanging asteroids (was: Re: Announcing the great Asteroid MOC Contest!)
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lugnet.space, lugnet.events.brickfest
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Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:44:19 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Phillip Thorne wrote:
> David Gregory wrote in late April:
> > > > > If we make an astroid with a place on top to suspend it by fishing line,
> > > > > will there be a way to hang them there at GMU? (snip)
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> In lugnet.events.brickfest, Phillip Thorne wrote:
> > > My suggestion: rather than hanging each individual asteroid from the
> > > ceiling, [...]construct a framework to hang at 5-7 feet, and hang the
> > > asteroids from *that*. [...]
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> In lugnet.space, Marc Nelson Jr. wrote:
> > You could set up all the hang points in advance, and just hang paper clips as
> > placeholders until the asteroids show up. There are all sorts of devices for
> > <http://www.merchinv.com/ceilingsolutions.htm hanging things from acoustic
> > tiles> - [...]
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> Interesting. I was not aware of these devices. Things to consider, though:
> (1) weight capacity of these hooks (most seem designed for signage, and LEGO
> structures are heavier), and (2) the need for multiple lines to each asteroid.
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> A single line isn't a good idea IMHO because (1) the asteroid will tip to its
> C.O.G. (there's no "up" in space, but there is in aesthetics), (2) the pendulum
> could start swinging erratically, and (3) redundancy. If the single line snaps
> or works loose (at either end), then SMASH! bricks EVERYWHERE!
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> I further suggest that anyone planning to hang their asteroids build them with
> an internal load-bearing frame (Technic, Znap, etc.) to which the lines can be
> attached; the asteroid surface and installations can be non-load-bearing
> "curtain walls".
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> > The black backdrop would be really nice for pictures.
>
> I'm glad you agree. I brought a length of black fabric last year, but didn't
> get to use it -- used the blue in the Castle Room, though. Broadcloth is, I
> discovered, translucent -- good for sky, not good for space; probably why TV SF
> shows use velvet -- the black plastic sheeting used as table skirts would work
> better.
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> (Speaking of which: somebody, REMEMBER TO TEST THE TAPE used to adhere those
> skirts! Please. I was one of the crew that labored post-Fest to scrub off the
> adhesive gunk from GMU's tables.)
I've been watching this Asteroid debate hang/don't hang. Having done commercial
suspended ceiling work a bit, might I offer some suggestions. I fully agree
with the ideas against hanging from the ceiling tile. I don't know how many
asteroids there will be (how many so far are there coming?) and how big they
will be but hanging them from the ceiling grid could prove disastorous. Those
hanging tabs don't hold a tremendous amount of weight for one. Secondly, if you
were to attach the asteroids to the grid it should be at a point where there is
support wire above. hanging them anywhere else may cause the collapse of the
grid in spot. Remember the grid only has to support light celing tile and
sometimes the grid may not be completely connected (enough movement could cause
a grid piece to sway out of poisition and therefore fall) they're supposed to be
locked into one another, but they don't always stay that way! Climbing up and
down ladders can be a bit tedious not to mention dangerous if the person isn't
use to doing it. Lastly the tile themselves are a concern. Many tile when
moved will shake loose little tiny bits of the surface and dust that has
collected, and makes quite a mess sometimes. Deffinately don't want bits of
fiberglass falling all over the place! It can be a pain to get the tile to fall
back in place to boot.
I think hanginmg them from the ceiling grid would look really cool, especial
over the moonbase, but it probably isn't worth the hassle, and may take way more
time then is available
Mike G
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