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This reply is not targeted at Jake or any specific person. It was just convenient to reply to Jake's post. Well, I thought I'd be done with this thread, but it looks like I'm going to have to put out a fire before it explodes. I really don't want to (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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I am really sad that these comments about Brickfest and if Christina and/or Joe are keeping profits and if volunteers are being shafted while whomever is profiting from Brickfest are being spoken. At this point, I don't care. I HAVE attended BF for (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) I can understand this, but at the end of the day there are benefits in both models: 1. A for-profit has an economic incentive to continue developing positive, fulfilling events. 2. A non-profit model had a higher chance of powering through (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) It's not THAT unrealistic, as Jeff mentioned that he attends other fan events where the organizers work on a volunteer basis. (...) You're right - Christina/Joe/whoever could take the accumulated funds from BF and write themselves a check for (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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You've never run an event have you Jeff? First off, an event for more than 800 attendees has some expenses other than just the 'space' for panels, displays etc. Quite a few.Start with insurance., now I'm not sure about Virginia, but in my area the (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) Slavery is not voluntary, and they CHOSE to participate, as did everyone else on staff. Staffing a convention is not employment, it is a voluntary service to better the hobby. In addition, the money is the *event's* money, not any one (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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| | Re: BrickFest registration fees (was: LEGO Adult Fan Convention at Legoland California?)
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(...) From dictionary.com: em?bez?zle [em-bez-uhl] –verb (used with object), -zled, -zling. to appropriate fraudulently to one's own use, as money or property entrusted to one's care. Which leads to: fraud [frawd] –noun 1. deceit, trickery, sharp (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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| | Re: BrickFest registration fees (was: LEGO Adult Fan Convention at Legoland California?)
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(...) That's an unrealistic expectation. (...) I look forward to your announcement of your own LEGO-related event, I'd like to see how that works for you. Good luck with that. (...) Tommy said it well... how can you embezzle your own money? (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Golly Pete In my opinion no monetary compensation for the event coordinator of a major event is akin to slavery. And that is very, very unethical. Once you pay your registration fee to an event you should have no say how, where, or to whom it (...) (18 years ago, 10-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Yes, it absolutely does. I expect every cent I put in to go back to the event itself, and not the people running it. The only compensation I expect any staffers to recieve is free entry to the event (since it is more work than play for most of (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) That was great! Thank you very much for posting the videos. (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) I'm not convinced of this at all. My estimations of the amount of money coming in does not match up with information I have been able to glean on costs. I am not privy to the financial details, and could be wrong, but I still have my (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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My almost 10 minute long video is ready. Sorry it's a week later than I said, but it's not my camera so I had to borrow it again. (URL) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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(...) Nor do I. In fact, I encourage it. That means there's even more specific motivation to make things bigger, better, more interesting, etc. (...) Dave, excellent point. (...) I think the reality is that in the earlier days, there was barely (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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Well, agree or not, Anthony's making a valid point. Some AFOLs may feel used or exploited if the event is a for-profit one, while others don't mind, so long as they get their money's worth. I think the problem is that people don't know. I guess (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) There you have it Todd and you people who want to put on an event in California--pretty much a blue print for what needs to be done (+ getting Jake's fingers a massage so he could keep typing). As I said when first started down this thread--I (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) Anthony, all due respect when I say this - I think you're woefully underestimating the time required to put on such an event. I'm in no way speaking for Christina or the BF volunteers, but I know from my own experience of trying to organize (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest)
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(...) As someone would has built a career on trying to understand why consumers/users/fans volunteer to help out the brands they love, this is a fascinating discussion! In order for the process of collaboration to work, what has to happen? Everbody (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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| | Re: BrickFest registration fees (was: LEGO Adult Fan Convention at Legoland California?)
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(...) I'm only going to speak (type?) for myself here. I came... because it was fun. A of fun. And I learned an amazing amount of things, and was deeply inspired by a lot of the things I saw (interpretation: I will steal a lot of cool ideas from the (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events, lugnet.events.brickfest, FTX)
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Todd, I imagine that enough time has passed that the ghosts of Brickswest past have been exercised. I have worried for some time now that the negative way that BW ended has clouded how cool of an event this actually was. People flew in from all (...) (18 years ago, 9-Sep-06, to lugnet.events)
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