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In lugnet.build.military, Shaun Sullivan wrote:
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In lugnet.build.military, Gil Shaw wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Douglas R. Clark wrote:
A really amazing shape you’ve captured here...and an economical use of parts
as well.
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You know, that’s an excellent point. Much like the Blacksmith’s Shop being
ideal for its colorful presentation, clean lines, and economic use of parts,
this would be a great line for LEGO: WWII Warbirds, minifig scale! Doug’s
P-51 here would make a gorgeous $30 set. Included with each plane is a WWII
Ace Trading Card! Perhaps there could even be an adventurers-type game to
clear the skies over Britain or Libya?
Well, it’s not *that* far fetched. Based on the Sopwith Camel and the Red
Baron’s plane, it seems that airplanes are far enough removed from the grisly
carnage on the ground so as not to conflict with LEGO values.
Now I’m just babbling.
-s
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I don’t know if I would really call this MOC “economical”; plates & tiles are
used almost exclusively in its construction to achieve the level of detail &
accuracy. When I take it apart (not until after its LDrawn) I will count the
number of pieces I used. I’m sure you could reduce the piece count by
curtailing the wild color scheme a bit (the checkerboard pattern on the nose for
example).
I am flattered if, by comparing this MOC to the Blacksmith shop, you are
suggesting that Lego should take it under consideration as a release in the MOC
line (provided it didn’t conflict with their values). I would be more than
happy to have it released as an un-armed Reno Air-racer.
I agree that a WWII warbird line would be great though. I just don’t know how
it would play out with Lego’s traditional stand against war toys. The Red-baron
& Sopwith Camel sets are already bluring that line as it is, but air combat in
WWI is remembered as kights of the air that dueled it out one-on-one with some
sort of chivalry. Also, the sculpture line is targeted at a slightly older
audience than mini-fig based sets.
Air combat from WWII is remembered much differently and much more vividly. I am
sure that there are too many people all over the world that remember the horrors
of WWII for Lego WWII toys to be possible yet. There was plenty of grisly
carnage in the air. I think I read somewhere that the US 8th airforce had more
casualties in combat than the US Army troops on the ground in the european
theater. You also have to remember the amount of destruction wreaked upon
soldiers and civilians alike by the bombers of both sides. Debates still rage
today about the morality of bombing raids over Dresden, Tokyo, and of course
Hiroshima & Nagasaki.
I also think that it would be impossible to include time-period accurate
insignia for any Luftwaffe birds (not sure about the Japanese insignia). Just
think of the debates that us lugnet-ers could have over whether or not Lego
could/should make a swastika tile/sticker to put on the wings/tail of a BF109
set??? Doesn’t France have some law against selling merchandise w/ Nazi logos,
or does that just pertain to genuine Nazi war memoribilia?
I think that the only way we will see a minifig warbird line (or any other 20th
century fighting vehicle) is if Lego releases a historical line of sets similar
to the recent discovery/NASA sets. The sets could inlcude a spec. sheet about
the aircraft or vehicle that is modeled and highlight how it was historically
significant. Maybe something in conjunction with the History channel DVD.
Whatever the theme, I don’t think it could be “play-oriented” In other words it
might be ok to do sets that study history of war vs. encourage kids to play war.
I would just be happy if Lego would return to the Flight Theme that they had in
the late 80’s early 90’s. Warbird-style designs could be included in an
air-show/air-race sets.
The other idea I had was to release some warbirds as part of the sculpture
scale. It would be really cool to have a P-51/P-38 built to the same scale as
the Sopwith Camel. Or even a spirit of st. louis or lockheed vega from the
“golden years” of aviation exploration (20’s-30’s timeperiod) would be way cool.
Just some thougths.
Thanks,
drc
(x-posted to lugnet.dear-lego)
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