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(...) It's dropping-- not by huge leaps and bounds as people might lead you to believe, but it's dropping. But there's not much I can say other than "it's worse than it was before". I compare elements molded in roughly 1999 to elements molded today, (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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Interesting points raised. As to LEGO quality not decreasing, and us just noticing it… I don’t buy that at all. I don’t ever remember stacking new bricks (even a few years ago) of the same color atop one another and seeing clear color differences. (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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(...) I have found that the newer sets have a problem. Others have seen the difference in colors in several sets. I have had a hard time puting some bricks and other elements together because of the tolerences. I began collecting in the 70's as an (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) Yes. I wish I had the article I'm thinking of-- I'll hunt for it. But according to Jorgen, people at Lego were using quality 'as a crutch'. They refused to do any cost saving measure because it might sacrifice quality. And supposedly it was (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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(...) This is misleading. The following is a statement from the LEGO Community Development Team: "Product safety and product quality are factors of the utmost concern for the LEGO Group and have been so during our entire 75 year history. In order to (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color, FTX)
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(...) That is a silly question. INSIST on quality. Would you buy a car that had three fenders one shade off from the rest of the car? Do what they did before, the highest quality in the toy industry. They did it once, why not put their inspectors in (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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(...) John, What would you like LEGO Group to do about the quality? They no longer manufacture plastic parts. They have contracted with a third party to manufacture parts who would try to pass as many parts as they can. LEGO might, by contract, be (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Can we all say Flextronics. What bothers me more is that Lego does not seem to care about or respond to this ongoing problem. John P (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Here's some of problems that I ran into... I bought a bunch of 2x10 white plates, stacked the neatly to fit inside a PaB cup. After stacking about 20 of them together, I realized that the sides of the plates didn't all line up smoothly. (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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Last month, I was extremely excited to find dark blue corner bricks in PAB at the Schaumburg LEGO store. I picked up 30-50 or so of them as I packed a holiday box. When I got home, I took them out and noticed immidiately that they were at least two (...) (17 years ago, 12-Feb-08, to lugnet.color)
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(...) These off color bricks are from the mid to late 70s and maybe into the very early 80s. The are neither kind of plastic that the Samsonite and early sets were made from, a totally different soft plastic and they grip the same as the newer (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Well the lack of "grip" is a strong hint for CA anyway. Even if the bricks are not warped, there is some extent of shrinkage which causes the lack of grip - I think I heard from different sources that CA bricks never had too much grip to begin (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Our off-color red bricks are from the 60s, and the plastic they are made from seems to be at least as hard as ABS, so they aren't made from this third, softer plastic. They are most likely CA, but the fact that none of them are warped is (...) (17 years ago, 20-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) You are right, some of the minifig air tanks of that period appear to be of a very weird material. As opposed to later versions, they are unusually worn out and the color actually seems to fade over the years. Can't say what material they are, (...) (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) No these are softer plastic, I have only noted them in the air tanks and 1xs2 plate ladders and some 1x1 plates. The are from the 70s and very earily 80s. All were a little off color. John P (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) I think there are two issues here: The original CA bricks (made until 1963) have a tendency to warp, shrink or become similarly unusable. The extent of warping or shrinking varies, depending on how the bricks were treated and stored over the (...) (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Was this other plastic type used in the 60s or earlier? These red bricks in our collection are glossy and have an orange-ish tint, which fits the description for CA (at least based on what I've read here on LUGNET), but none of them are (...) (17 years ago, 18-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) There were also some parts that did not fit into either type of plastic. It is a different red and a few yellow air tanks, plate 1x2 with ladder and some of the 1x1 plates with clips or headlights. There is a difference that is clear to see (...) (17 years ago, 17-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Thanks for the reference, and I now see that several online LEGO histories mention cellulose acetate as the material for all bricks prior to 1963. (17 years ago, 16-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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(...) Those sound like cellulose acetate bricks. (17 years ago, 16-Dec-07, to lugnet.color)
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