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2004 Castle Products
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Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:29:20 GMT
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What a boost in Castle traffic in the last week! There has been quite a bit of discussion about how system castle is about to be completely and forever replaced by a Castle/Bionicle combo. This info has been gathered (or created) based on leaks, rumors, and incomplete or incorrect info.

It’s important to remember that until you have the actual product in hand, or you have seen/read an official announcement, you don’t know the full story. Rumors can stir up a bit of craziness that generates yet more rumors. The castle furor is a great case in point.

Yes, there is a new Knights Kingdom series coming next year, which does include what we call “constraction” (constructible action) figures. Those figures are previewed currently in the UK edition of LEGO Magazine. Some people have (illogically and hastily) reached the conclusion that these figures = Castle = System-scale Castle is no more. Once this conclusion was reached, panic and hysteria ensues. “Castle has been replaced by Bionicle! By Galidor! Bionicle, Galidor, and Castle have merged into one! System Castle is dead! LEGO doesn’t care about castle fans!”

This is just plain wrong.

The inclusion of one thing doesn’t equal the demise of another. Back to the “wait for the facts” discussion: Who said System scale Castle is dead? Not us. Hey, it’s one of our core, classic themes - do you think we’re just going to trash it?

Without giving away the farm (or fiefdom, for you castle folks), we can say that the existence of these figures in no way precludes the existence of a System-scale Castle theme. And the figures are unequivocally not a replacement for the Castle theme that you all know and love. They are a new dimension to the theme - an addition - which we believe will help draw even more kids to the Castle theme. And though Brad was intentionally cryptic about Castle at the NWBrickCon Q&A (Q: Castle? A: Yes) he wasn’t talking about these figures. System-scale Castle is very much alive. It should be added that the existence of Harry Potter also doesn’t preclude the existence of a more traditional System-scale Castle theme - we’ve not said otherwise. And - here’s a bit of news, by the way - there will be new Harry Potter sets in 2004; and yes, we do have the license through the next movie... at least.

Brad says that he sticks to his statement that next year should be a banner year for Castle-heads. And that’s all we’re going to (or can) say about that - for now.

Let the reading between the lines begin!

Jake
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Jake McKee
Community Liaison
LEGO Community Development



Message has 19 Replies:
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) Thank you for explanation. I'd like to ask: how about Pirates? We heard the new Pirate sets will be 4+, with Jack Stone scale figures. That means no more regular minifig scale Pirates? Thanks in advance and kind regards, -- shgg. (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) What a perfectly cromulent word! ;-) (...) Thanks much for the update -- it's highly appreciated! Kevin (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) phew! Thank you for this update, Regards, René (URL) (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) Jake, Let me be the first to say I was wrong to over-react. Of course, I'm sure you can understand our/my misgivings. I did see the Galidor Knights as a possible way to pull people into LEGO Castle generally. Also, let me thank you for all (...) (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
Hello! (...) So, being one of those people I apologise. If it was an illogically is a different point. I think from what has happened to the Castle line for the last year and the Pirates line for several years now let room for demoralising (...) (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) Hi Jake, Thanks for those three very critical bits of information! The fact that Harry Potter & Castle can coexist is interesting. (many thought there were parallels to how Star Wars disallows Space.) Much obliged, your clarity is appreciated, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.harrypotter)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) Hi Jake, Thanks for those three very critical bits of information! The fact that Harry Potter & Castle can coexist is interesting. (many thought there were parallels to how Star Wars disallows Space.) Much obliged, your clarity is appreciated, (...) (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.harrypotter)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) OH, BOY! This leaves me just tingling with excitement! I can imagine it now, making up for all those years of missed classic sets... But I think I'll just keep my speculations to myself! Andrew (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
Cool. It'll give the castle folks an opportunity to start collecting castle poops in the new grey :) Adrian (21 years ago, 24-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
Please don't take this as a smart-*** response. It may seem that way, but it's to get you to think about something here... (...) <cough>grey, dark grey, brown<cough> (...) "Hey, grey is one of our core, classic colors - do you think we're just going (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) YES!!! Stephen (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) I want to say that it is very cool to have a representative of a large company personally post responses to the concerns of a minority of a minority. (Castle builders as a subset of adult builders who themselves are a small percentage of (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
In lugnet.castle, Jake McKee wrote: snip (...) snip While I greet this news with some relief, I would like to voice some concern over this, some of the recent posts (no, I'm not going to bring them all up again) mentioned that castle has had some (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general)
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  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) After the stupendous success of Galidor, I have nothing but great optimism for this product line. (...) I'm sorry, but very often this is exactly the case, at least for several years. The inclusion of juniorization equaled the demise of good (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(snip) (...) After the color change announcement (Rocco, this one's for you) I think there will be a lot of wild theories floating around. The train of though goes like this "If Lego will discontinue core colors what else are they capable of?" (...) (21 years ago, 25-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
You know what annoys me the most Jake? ALL THE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NEW COLORS & SETS! "Lego doesn't care about us" %^$& THAT! If it doesn't go your way, its wrong? WOW calm down, deal with it, THEME'S ARE NEVER "dead". Josh (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) Woohoo!!! Thanks Jake!!! Jen (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
  Re: 2004 Castle Products
 
(...) When I see the word "constraction" I don't think "contructible" + "action"... I think "constriction" + "contraction" + "distraction"... But that's probably just me. As in, "My stomach goes into constractions thinking about Galidor." :D --Todd (21 years ago, 26-Nov-03, to lugnet.castle, lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, FTX)

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