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Re: City State of Orchida
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Fri, 2 May 2003 18:50:08 GMT
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> Hey, have you checked out my complete ripoffs of your provincial village
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=41624 . i'd like to know what
> ya think of them (even if it's cruel and needless).
No, I hadn't seen them before now, but I just checked it out, and I actually
like what you've done in a couple of areas. It was cool to see the house
style done in some different colors, and the printing press is cool as well.
(Although I'm guessing there was some sort of explosion in one of the pics!
or maybe it was an explosion of break dancing?)
Anyway, I don't really think building off of someone's design is a real
problem. I know in other areas of Lugnet people get angry when they feel
they've done something unique and then see others doing it (read. mecha
sometime if you want to see juvenile flaming at it's worst), but I really
don't think it should be considered a problem at all. I mean it just seems
pretty self serving to publish your design and then expect others to just
“sit back in awe” of your "amazing ability to play with toys" and never
attempt anything after viewing it.
If your creation is any good it's going to inspire someone to try it too.
Imitation is the first step in creativity, and if you suppress imitation, no
one will be able to build on prior success. A lot of folks out there expect
everyone to be at the same stage of their creative process at the same time,
thus ensuring their disappointment in others who they perceive as "beneath"
them.
It never hurts to give credit where credit is due, but the moment an
individual starts demanding something from another person, it's a sure sign
they have much deeper issues in the area of emotional and personal adequacy.
We aren't making money off of this, so unless you are in this for personal
notoriety or some type of low-level Internet 15 minutes of fame, then it's
pretty tasteless to become a design Nazi.
In my opinion, this type of "Design snobbery" is one of the chief reasons
this online community has struggled as of late. A community can really only
succeed when it is existing within the healthy confines of economic
intercourse, and the economy of Lugnet is basically the intercourse of ideas.
Building off of others designs is something that we are all doing,
regardless of whether or not we admit it. W are either working off of a
set, or something we saw. It's the ultimate hypocrisy to demand credit, for
building something out of bricks you didn't even design! How many posts
have we seen recently that ended in "...my sincere appreciation is expressed
to Lego for giving me the opportunity to build with the marvelous bricks
they've designed for me..." NONE.
The moment this online community stopped being about GIVING ideas to others,
and started becoming a place that DEMANDED individual respect for its self
styled superstars is the moment it entered a depression of community
economics. The lifeblood of ideas, the traded commodity of the community
dried up!
I can't remember the last time I saw a lot of the old members post, good
people who really taught me a lot of building tips. It’s kind of sad that
between you, Bruce Heitbrink, Pawel, and a couple of others there really
isn’t much happening inside of .castle. I've gotten more out of this
community than I could ever hope to give back in return, I just wonder if
there’s going to be much of a community left after a while.
Anyways, sorry about the Rant, I guess I don’t need to tell you any of this,
you seem to already get it, so apologies for my little soap boxing stunt.
I think the greatest thing that comes from working off of each other’s
designs is that you and I both now are a little closer together as designers
and desirers. We both now understand how hard it is to engineer so much
into a small space, we both now understand the need for roof elements and
arches in different colors, and so forth, the community of builders is also
closer knit by having shared ideas, struggles and successes.
I liked seeing what you came up with, and how your little spin off was
different, keep up the good work Lenny, but watch out for the Count Wodka,
he’s a sneaky one, one minute you’re fine and dandy, the next you’re waking
up in a dumpster wondering why all of your BURPS taste so icky! See Ya Jon
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