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Re: LPub/LSynth/Mega-POV Question
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lugnet.cad.ray
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Wed, 7 Jan 2004 01:40:36 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.ray, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.ray, David Perdue wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I’m doing some rendering for Building Instructions, and am coming across a
> > little problem that I am not quite sure how to resolve. Here is the big picture:
> > I am doing extremely high quality BI’s, using LPub, which means that the
> > resolution is very large. Two of the features I added are LSynth generated parts
> > (mainly electrical wires -- these are MindStorms BI’s) and outlining of the
> > renderings using Mega-POV.
> >
> > However, the problem is, there are little tiny (VERY tiny) “spaces” in between
> > certain sections of the bendable electrical wires generated with LSynth; they
> > are not all throughout the wires, just in a section here and there. Whether they
> > are there because the wires aren’t set up correctly, or they are there because
> > that is the way they are generated I don’t know. From a resolution of 800x600,
> > they are practically invisible and don’t cause any problems. From, say, a
> > 1200x1500 resolution, they are still invisible once the rendered image gets
> > squeezed down, but the image is so large dimension-wise to start with, that
> > Mega-POV catches these little “cracks” and fills them in with bright white
> > spots. Even when the final image is squeezed down, these white spots are
> > visible; although not horrendous, they can be noticed if the image is
> > scrutinized long enough. I simply cannot be having these white specks in my
> > images.
> >
> > Does anybody have any suggestions? Is there any way to fix this, or will I just
> > have to redo the electrical cables very carefully until all the cracks go away?
> > The latter scenario does not seem a pleasant one and I'm not sure if it is the
> > best solution. I have tried messing around with the Mega-POV options in LPub,
> > but no success so far.
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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> Synthesised wire and tubing, if I recall correctly, is achieved by placing a
> large number of "primitive" elements along the spline that defines the
> centerline of the desired shape, aligned so they are tangential to the spline at
> that point, and spaced out so that they just overlap each other. The tiny spaces
> you see are presumably where they don't quite overlap.
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> This is just a wild guess but are the gaps where the wires bend more, or on
> sections where the wires are straighter?
Yes, the gaps are where the wires bend more. I figured that the bending was
responsible for the gaps.
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> One possible hack is to replace the wire primitive used with one that is just
> slightly longer so that when it's pieced together it overlaps the next piece
> more.
>
> That's just a guess, but it may be easier to do that than to adjust the
> interelement spacing (that is used within the code to decide where to place the
> elements on the spline) to make the elements a bit closer together,
Hmmmm...going through all the gaps and trying to fix them probably won't work. I
am fully synthesizing my models, so there is ALOT of wires. Replacing the
primitive might be a possibility.
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> Kevin would know for sure, I'm just guessing. But I hope it was of some help.
Thank you greatly -- any information is indeed greatly appreciated.
In lugnet.cad.ray, Allister Mclaren wrote:
> I'm no expert in maga-pov or lpub, but if everything else looks ok, I'd just
> erase these white spots with Photoshop or whatever picture editing software
> you use. Would this be more work than remodeling the cables, or less?
It would be less work than remodeling the wires, but I already tried this with
my PhotoDeluxe cloning feature, and, unfortunately, it doesn't look "natural".
There is a good amount of this "white stuff". Thanks for the suggestion though -
I always like to hear everyones' suggestions.
David J. Perdue
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