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| | | Hi, I would like to announce that I've just released a new version of MLCad! MLCad V3.30 What's new: - Development environment was changed to Visual Studio 2005 - Support for color definitions in LdConfig.ldr - Empty lines are no longer removed (for (...) (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad) !!
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Philippe Hurbain
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| | | | | You made my day! Thanks, Michael!!! Philo (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Jetro de Chateau
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| | | | | (...) Thank you for this long awaited release! Now let's spread the word! Jetro (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Jetro de Chateau
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| | | | | | (...) BTW, this really deserves being posted on lugnet.announce as well!! (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Santeri Piippo
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| | | | | (...) You just ground my yawn to a halt. LDConfig support is something I've been wanting for a *very* long time. Now I can define my own background colour by using the unused colour 31. :P Love it. -Santeri (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Heidemann
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| | | | | (...) Thank you very much for updating MLCad to support LDConfig.ldr. I hope that this will not be the last update to this wonderful application. Now I have to see how it works. cu mikeheide (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Heidemann
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| | | | | | (...) Now that I have installed MLCad and read all informations I hope we can get an update soon. I have two reason: 1) Implementation of language support is different to what we have implemented. 2) I miss the "dithered" colours. Not the dithered (...) (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Santeri Piippo
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| | | | | | | (...) That's something that has been around in the last version too. (...) I have another bug... in some cases I cannot manipulate the rotation matrix because the angle value in the vector field (which I never saw much use of anyhow) is something (...) (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Lachmann
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| | | | | | | | Hello Santeri, (...) Could you please save your file in such a case and send it to me for reproduction and testing? That would be of great help! Thanks for reporting! Best regards, Michael (15 years ago, 9-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Philippe Hurbain
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| | | | | | | | | Hi Michael, (...) I just stumbled on the same problem. This single line is enough to show the problem (Impossible to change the transformation matrix): 1 1 0 0 -25 38 0 0 0 0 -38 0 1 0 48\4-4edge.dat Philo (15 years ago, 9-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Santeri Piippo
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| | | | | | | | (...) Philo beat me to it but here's mine anyway: 1 4 0 0 -5 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 4-4disc.dat 1 2 0 0 -10 4 0 0 0 0 -4 0 1 0 4-4disc.dat 1 14 0 0 -15 5 0 0 0 0 5 0 -1 0 4-4disc.dat -Santeri (15 years ago, 9-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Lachmann
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| | | | | | Hello Michael (...) I'm currently looking into that. (...) ? I cannot understand. There is no such range, MLCad takes that what comes from LDConfig nothing more, nothing less. Dithered colors originally have been according to the original definition (...) (15 years ago, 9-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | | (...) I noticed that when I remove LDConfig.ldr the old dithered colors are available, but no longer dithered. They're now solid colors. That's a big improvement! It makes the 256-511 rance of colors much nicer for printed patterns. (Dithered colors (...) (15 years ago, 9-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Lachmann
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| | | | | | | | Hello Don, (...) I thought the LDraw group doesn't allow any other colors than the standard ones? Even so I was in the assumption that I didn't create any special colors, but I toulk them over from some old spec where these colors where mentioned. I (...) (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Travis Cobbs
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| | | | | | | | (...) As it happens, the LSC has been dealing with this very issue for the past few months. There is no mention made of dither colors in any of the current LDraw specs (including the official parts restrictions). They somehow got dropped (...) (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Lachmann
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| | | | | | | | | "Travis Cobbs" <tcobbs@REMOVEgmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Kxn3yE.p2D@lugnet.com... (...) So I will take over parts of the build in color table in the range of 256 to 511. During this step the programm will convert these dittered colors (...) (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | BTW, Dither What Colors...? —Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Hmm. "You may think this is easy, but wait 'til I've explained it to you!" (One of my father's favourite standard joke.) I don't know how much difference it will make, but current standard colors are much better than the 16 original LDraw (...) (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: BTW, Dither What Colors...? —Tore Eriksson
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Of course, I mean the blending, not the dithering... (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: BTW, Dither What Colors...? —Timothy Gould
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| | | | | | | | | | | | --SNIP-- (...) Good thinking. Since the old colours were derived from the EGA colour palette I reckon the dithers would have to be derived from it too. Otherwise you could end up with some very different blends. I like your signature ;) Tim (15 years ago, 12-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: BTW, Dither What Colors...? —Michael Heidemann
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Also I am thinking that we have to use the original color values for the color 0 - 15 to build the blended colors. Otherwise we get other colors. This range should be known by every LDraw related application.and only overwritten by entries (...) (15 years ago, 12-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Don Heyse
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I think Travis' wording may be confusing. Don't use "the old dither algorithm". MLCad 3.30 draws colors 256-511 as *solid* colors. That's better than using the stippling algorithm from previous MLCad versions. (No new/current software stipples (...) (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Santeri Piippo
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) How about just "use the 'dithered' range but apply LDConfig on top of them, overriding any colour that gets in the way"? -Santeri (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Heidemann
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) That is exactly what I was thinking about last days. First load MLCad standard colours (like they have been for year). Then replace all the colors for that you will find an entry in the LDConfig.ldr. I would prefer to really keep the blended (...) (15 years ago, 11-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —William Howard
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I can confirm that. While the LSC may have dithered over the spec, we certainly didn't drop "dither" intentionally. (Mind you, given the number of referenced specs we had to ratify first before we could get onto "the biggie", I'm surprised we (...) (15 years ago, 10-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Joshua Delahunty
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| | | | | | | | (...) I've been surprised by some of this discussion of dithered colors, because when Foundry was created (not by me), it was done as a "clean room" project, based entirely off of specs, so it's the closest thing out there to a reference parser, and (...) (15 years ago, 11-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Travis Cobbs
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| | | | | | | | (...) LDView's blending code was originally written to handle LDLite's 0 COLOR syntax, since that is what was originally used in LDConfig.ldr. LDLite's syntax allows for the dithering of two arbitrary colors, either or both of which can themselves (...) (15 years ago, 11-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Michael Heidemann
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| | | | | | (...) If you have any question regarding this, please don't hesitate to contact me, as I have already made DATHeader using this new feature. (...) Yes, I miss that as they are used in parts already. But others already have answered this question (...) (15 years ago, 11-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Scott Wardlaw
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| | | | | (...) This is excellent news Michael! Thank you so much for all of your hard work. We couldn't ask for anything more, especially since you do this for free! I hope that you know how much the entire community appreciates your effort! Many thanks, (...) (15 years ago, 8-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Marco Tagliaferri
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| | | | | Hello Michael, I just want to thank you for the constant work you're doing to develop and upgrade this tremendous tool! Regards (URL) Marco> (15 years ago, 9-Feb-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Jaco van der Molen
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| | | | | There is a bug in the generated partslist when using a new color. For example when I use a part with color 81 Metalic_Green it reports as Chrome_Black. See: (URL) this be resolved with a change in ldconfig or is a real bug in MLCad 3.30? Jaco (15 years ago, 11-May-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** —Scott Wardlaw
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| | | | | | (...) I duplicated the error, and it looks to be a bug in MLCAD. Scott W. (15 years ago, 11-May-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** new feature request —Aaron Duerksen
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| | | | Hi, This is something that's been bugging me for a while, but since MLCAD is free software and very useful even without this feature, I haven't made much of a fuss about it. However, I thought I'd throw it out here so others can comment on it and so (...) (15 years ago, 22-May-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** new feature request —Michael Heidemann
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| | | | (...) That would be a great enhencement for MLCad and it should be possible. But I do not know how many hours Michael L. has to spend for that. If you want to try another application please try SR3DBuilder. As fas as I can see the required feature (...) (15 years ago, 23-May-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** new feature request —Aaron Duerksen
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| | | | (...) Wow! I think you're right! SR3DBuilder looks exactly like what I'm looking for...except I'm on Ubuntu Linux and it doesn't work in Wine, where MLCAD is flawless. I asked Sergio about this through his website, so I'll see what he says. Thanks (...) (14 years ago, 20-Jun-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** new feature request —Aaron Duerksen
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| | | | (...) Well, after a long discussion with Sergio via e-mail and a period of trying different things, it appears that SR3DBuilder will only run (both now and in the future) on a native installation of Windows (not even a virtual machine) that has a (...) (14 years ago, 14-Aug-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** new feature request —Don Heyse
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| | | | (...) You could try to track down a copy of leoCAM. Maybe that'll do it. Or perhaps some of the leoCAM features have migrated back into leocad? I don't know, but it might be worth a look. Good luck, Don (14 years ago, 15-Aug-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** new feature request —Joshua Delahunty
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| | | | | (...) LeoCAM had a really rudimentary "snap-to" functionality added to LeoCAD. It didn't work entirely well, and was never entirely completed (as it was an academic proof, rather than an actual attempt to create a functionality). The sources have (...) (14 years ago, 17-Aug-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | | | | | Re: *** MLCad V3.30 *** new feature request —Aaron Duerksen
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| | | | (...) Well, it's been a while since I've checked, and now there's a forum dedicated to SR3DBuilder, which looks like the best solution by far to what I'm looking for. It still doesn't run on Linux, but that is exactly one of the topics on the forum: (...) (14 years ago, 19-Oct-10, to lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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