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| | | (...) It can't be "justified", but stamping one's foot isn't going to help, Jeremy, and you know that. I think what we need is an unoffical update. Package them up as unofficial and tell people to take their chances. But realise that there is (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | (...) Fine, okay, you can call it what you want. The fact remains, something needs to be done. I'm making it known the only way I know how. The delay in the parts update system is becoming pretty unpopular, and it begs the question: is this being (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | I mostly agree so I mostly snipped... (...) How does that help? That is, suppose it would take 40 man hours of work to resolve the bottleneck and get the new process on line and running. If that 40 hours avoids 400 or 4000 hours of user effort, (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | (...) The bugger here is that we could play what-if with the schedule all year long. I won't do that. (...) Why not? Aren't the users why the whole LDraw thing happens, anyway? (...) I would, but only to get it done my way -- quick & cheap & dirty. (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Orion Pobursky
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| | | | | | (...) Ummmm.... Isn't that what the lugnet.cad.dat.parts newsgroup (or Tore's temp parts tracker) is for? You go looking for the part you want and install it. That's what I've been doing. What I wanted when I asked my original question (which has (...) (24 years ago, 30-Apr-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Chuck Sommerville
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| | | | | | (...) Orion, you bring up a great idea that could solve the problem in the interum. Take all the parts you can find on Tore's tracker and in the parts newsgroup, put them in a self extracting archive or .zip file, and post the file somewhere like (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Orion Pobursky
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| | | | | | | I think I'll do that, if I can find the time (work in the real world's going to get pretty hectic over the next month). Thanks Chuck. -Orion (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Chuck Sommerville
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| | | | | | | | (...) You might also ask the parts author's permission before including their parts in the "pre-release". Some people can be touchy about this. I'm not a parts author, so no need to ask me. -Chuck (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Chuck Sommerville
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| | | | | | | | (...) OK, so I lied, I guess I am a parts author of sorts: (URL) are on Tore's tracker. Feel free to include my updated heads. -Chuck (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Carsten Schmitz
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| | | | | | Hello Chuck, (...) temp (...) it. (...) Yes. That is a nice idea but some of the parts dont still have pattern numbers or copyrights are missing or something like that. (...) parts (...) the (...) pre-release. (...) Hmm.. I am a parts authour but I (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | As you can imagine, behind the scenes discussion is running fast and furious (not in the Mad sense, in the fast sense...oh never mind) The following are rambles/my opinions, not official statements of position (remember I am the nonvoting member who (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Carsten Schmitz
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| | | | Hello Larry, Jeremy I'm following this thread very closely... and i have to jump in at this point. (...) I think Tim has waited to long to get help from other volunteers. There has been at least some people in the newsgroups and some via email (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Tim Courtney
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| | | | "Carsten Schmitz" <casz@gmx.de> wrote in message news:GCMtBs.ByD@lugnet.com... (...) Good point, and I agree. I've gotta work out some management stuff on my own - especially this week. I'll also be lowering my standards of expectations for (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Daniel Crichton
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| | | | | "Tim Courtney" <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:GCMuJ8.E5M@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) attached. (...) I think this needs a little modification - if the parts could be zipped separately then people could just get the ones they want, and as (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) Let's not reinvent the wheel. This process is already largely done, I would think, as part of the new parts update system now in development. The interim solution needs to be quick & easy for the implementors. Cheers, - jproat (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Daniel Crichton
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| | | | | | (...) The problem I see with releasing the current unofficial parts in a single download is that it's going to make it harder for anyone who wants to help out in checking individual parts - they're going to have to download a large ZIP file of parts (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | (...) This would work. Just don't take Steve off of the new system -- with him working on it, it's gonna be good. Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) You can't have your cake and eat it too, Jeremy! Who do you think would be doing a significant portion (hopefully not all, but non zero) of the packaging task? ++Lar (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) Zipping up the parts already collected: 5 minutes Writing the disclaimer: 2 minutes Uploading zipfile and disclaimer to LDRAW.ORG: 3 minutes Catching the warm glow as the parts preview is released: Priceless. For the really big tasks there's a (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Do you really think this is a 10 minute job? If so you must really have a low opinion of the gang, then, that they would hold out on you to save a mere 10 minutes of their time. I hope that's not the case, but rather that you're just really (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | (...) Well tell me then. Larry. How hard is it to just zip up the parts that have already been submitted, and why? Are they all not sitting in a directory somewhere on someone's hard drive? Or are they really scattered in an ad-hoc fashion? Trust (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Rolf Redford
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| | | | | | how about making all unofficial parts go to "unofficial" group like bricks and plates? -- And they said 'Computers will never be in general use' "Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message news:GCo1LK.Gpx@lugnet.com... (...) have (...) (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | | | | | Re: We need an update NOW (Was: Parts Update?) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | (...) I think I can use my part-voting-preparation utilities to generate a webpage like the ones we use for voting. So people could check out what the unofficial parts are, and either download them all in one shot, or just grab what they want. Steve (24 years ago, 1-May-01, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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