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(...) until (...) YAY!... love this page.. use it all the time... only Todd has a policy where set images are not to be linked to directly from LUGNET (Pause)... how will this affect those of us who link to the parts ref for piece auctions (ala (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Arguably you're going to have to make copies of the images and host them yourself. That's a downside. I didn't have too much guilt over having AT&T pay for the traffic (presumably Steve isn't paying per byte the way Todd is). (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I could host the images if it makes it easier for people to use it, or cheaper for LUGNET. (I don't have any restrictions on direct linking). KL (...) from (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Ooo, didn't think about that one. Hmm. I guess you'll need to copy the images off to your own server. That's too bad. BTW, the primary reason I wanted to move off the WorldNet site was because I could never get an FTP connection to do updates. (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, like it says on the page, "To reference a part image, when you already know the LDraw number for that part, use the following URL format. (URL).gif" In other words, linking directly to these images is OK in this case. (...) These are (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) No, it's OK: people can link directly to the images just as they did before at the previous location. On the splash page, it even says how to refer to the images at the new URL. --Todd (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I just added a statement on that page noting that direct links to the parts images are OK. Just so there's no confusion. :-) --Todd (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Cool! (...) Is there any desire to have povray rendered images for each part? I still think that would be cool, even though the ldraw versions are more useful for some things. It would also be nice to be able to either: 1. have all parts (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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Kevin Loch <kloch@opnsys.com> wrote in message news:FM32ur.BwF@lugnet.com... (...) I agree. Some parts--especially those with lots of rounded surfaces--can be hard to make out in LDraw. POVRAY works much better for these parts (and for decorated (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) IMHO, the best thing is having both (a) super-quick-loading GIFs and (b) high-quality POV JPEGs, and then letting the user decide which one to view. A while back, someone even suggested having spinning/rotating POV-rendered images for each (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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One thing I noticed with the DAT explorer is that POV rendered images look _MUCH_ better with the lossless PNG format thatn with JPEG. Perhaps appropriate use of the JPEG smoothing function would help the the tests I did looked bad even at 100% (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Speaking of which... I just posted my wants list. I want hundreds of most of the items on it. Someone pointed out to me that if I could tell of sets that had large quantities of the parts I might get better responses. Given the current state (...) (25 years ago, 1-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) I Started this Several Weeks ago, I have already run Pov-Ray for the Thumbs and the Large Size. I have only the two sizes done so far. What would you call normal Size, I had not figured out a good third size any suggestions? All pngs, 128x96 (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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Excellent! After looking at them I think that other perspectives are more important than colors. Have you tried experimenting with the ambient light option in povray? I don't think l3p gives you that option but you can modify the pov files l3p (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) Yeah I was thinking that the third size should be a composite of four views top, left, bottom, and right. Should the floor be kept in this kind of view? Ie: Rotate Part over floor rather than 4 Cameras, nuking the floor only on the bottom (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) That's fine with me. The only downside is applying updates. When new parts are released for LDraw, I don't update individual partsref images and pages, I just regenerate the whole shebang. So any manual edits would probably get overwritten. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Are you familiar with the make utility? It allows you to describe an arbitrary set of modules, with their associated interdependencies, and then re-build only the modules which have changed and modules dependant upon them. Of course, using (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Yep, I'm familiar with make. I even went to look for one once. Do you know how hard it is to search the net for 'make'? I never could figure out a decent set of search-words... Oh, wait. I've got a make.exe with my old copy of Turbo Pascal. (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) You could try the version which comes with Cynwin32: (URL) used Beta 20.1; it seems pretty stable. If you're not too keen on using the Unix sub-layer (slow), try dmake: (URL) it seems to have gone commercial -- you have to *pay* for the (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) This is kludgy but might work. Details left as an exercise. Your problem is that what you want is to know when a file is *new to YOU* not what it's timestamp is. Keep two complete sets of .dat files. One is an image of the state of files, but (...) (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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I haven't gotten any nibbles, can someone suggest a group better suited to answering this question? (...) <for one part> (25 years ago, 2-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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[should've snipped the ng list, but I didn't--couldn't decide which to keep/exclude] (...) So, as both the new Keeper of the LDraw Library and the Keeper of the Partsref Pages, I could build a make, and apply it everytime I get new candidate files (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) I'm going to need to keep a vanilla installation, just for partsref generation. It's too tempting to make minor edits to part files in my regular installation. And, if I'm going to have two copies of LDraw, I'd rather have "working" and (...) (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) lugnet.general? lugnet.helpwanted? The current problem is that there aren't that many published inventories for current sets. So you need to hook up to someone who is A-R enough to inventory everything themselves,. Steve (25 years ago, 3-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) Todd and Joshua D. have an amazing number inventoried, between them. At least that's my suspicion. It's convincing them to make the data available in a format I can run reverse queries against that is the hard part. (25 years ago, 4-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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(...) I'm not sure I want to do them all (though the list was much shorter than I thought it would be), but here's a start, the very first on the list. Here are the sets (that I know of) released since 1992, with black 1x1 bricks, sorted reverse on (...) (25 years ago, 5-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary)
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Steve Bliss wrote in message ... [ ... snip ... ] (...) There is a very good Make book available from O'Reilly & Associates, _Managing Software Projects with Make_. I have found that this book always seems to have an example for something I was (...) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Oh, I dunno about O'Reilly... :-) Their stuff is spotty. It varies from good, up through Insanely Great, all the way to YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THIS BOOK. I wish they'd just pick a quality level and stick to it. :-) (25 years ago, 7-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray)
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(...) Yah. Keeping my _sed & awk_ and _Programming Perl_ within reach isn't a matter of life and death -- it's much more important than that. But make is really a simple tool. I wonder just how useful an entire book for it would be. The last one I (...) (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.db.brictionary, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) MSPwM is more than just stupid Make tricks. It's a great book. Make may be a simple tool, like so many other unix tools, but you can do very very complex things with it which is why it's such a great tool... (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Read the GNU Make How-to. That shoudl give you all the info you need =) -Earle ---...--- The Solution to the Bulk LEGO Problem ByTheBrick (URL) ---...--- (25 years ago, 8-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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