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Re: L3P v1.3 20010120
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Fri, 23 Feb 2001 01:33:12 GMT
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Sproaticus wrote...
> Lars,
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> Awesome. I tip my hat to you and Lutz. :-,
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> I don't mean to complain, in fact I am currently trying to figure out a
> solution anyways, but I thought I'd raise these issues and see if anyone
> else has figured it out already. Basically, some LGEO pieces are not
> directly compatable with the LDraw parts library and need some tweaking to
> come across properly after L3P-ing.
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> The inconsistencies I have found so far:
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> <part:3149> hinge 2x5 base in LDraw becomes <part:3145> tipper end after
> l3p+lgeo
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> <part:3942> cone 2x2 becomes <part:3943> cone 4x4 afterwards, as well.
> Renaming lg_3942.inc to lg_3943.inc doesn't work btw
Are you sure you have got ALL updates installed properly?
My L2P_ELMT.TAB is from 31-12-99 and the latest part is
lg_3873.inc from 23-09-99.
BTW, you can use the -d option to L3P to see the contents of LGEO's
*.TAB files: "l3p -d -lgeo somefile.dat | more"
> <part:4588> brick 1x1 round with fins doesn't exist in clear in lgeo, so
> there's some parsing problems with the POV file...weird
Yes, Lutz forgot the lg_4588_clear in that file...
> <part:6536> technic axle joiner perpendicular ends up rotated 90 degrees on
> the part's y axis after l3p+lgeo
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> It's fairly easy to fix these by hand in the POV file, but I'm not so sure
> how to fix the overall situation. Changing either the LGEO library or the
> LDraw parts library would most certainly break existing models, and
> requiring L3P to handle these on a piece-by-piece basis would get to become
> a headache for Lars. Unfortunately, the latter is the best solution I can
> think of so far.
L3P already has one exception: it adds a missing texture
"texture {lg_black}" to pattern lp_0008.inc used in lg_3626p01,
the Minifig Head with Standard Grin Pattern :-)
But, that's not the way to go...
> Actually, another possibility is for L3P to incorporate some kind of
> external lookup table, in a file which can be maintained separately from the
> L3P binary. Perhaps a simple mapping from LDraw to LGEO with part number
> changes and translation matrix -- any parts not mentioned in the table would
> just go through as they do now, which would keep the table down to a
> managable size.
No, Lutz Uhlmann should be alerted and fix his files. Otherwise also L2P
would suffer from the same mistakes...
I also have a list of errors:
lg_0711.inc: "#declare lg_0709_clear" should be "#declare lg_0711_clear"
lg_6081.inc lacks lg_6081_clear
wrong offset in z lg_6832.inc Windscreen 4 x 4 x 1
lp_0008.inc: missing "texture {lg_black}"
lg_cyan, lg_tan, lg_orange, lg_clear_brown, lg_clear_neon_orange are
missing in L2P_COLR.TAB
Lutz should also consider making a new version of L2P_ELMT.TAB,
preferably in text rather than binary.
The current format is inadequate for a conversion table between
DAT filenames and LGEO filenames: He only uses an integer for the
DAT file number (again, try: "l3p -d -lgeo somefile.dat"), which cannot
handle all our letter suffixes properly.
But I've already suggested that to him long ago...
> Anyway, I love the changes you've made to L3P Lars; incorporating Lutz's
> LGEO parts has really spiffed up my microfig collection. :-,
Thanks.
/Lars
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| (...) Huh. I downloaded the complete set, but my L2P_ELMT.TAB is from 25-1-1999. The other timestamp is off too. I figured this could be an old LGEO install, but I tried again on a fresh machine and I still have the older files. Exactly which file (...) (24 years ago, 23-Feb-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| Lars, Awesome. I tip my hat to you and Lutz. :-, I don't mean to complain, in fact I am currently trying to figure out a solution anyways, but I thought I'd raise these issues and see if anyone else has figured it out already. Basically, some LGEO (...) (24 years ago, 16-Feb-01, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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