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Re: Assembled parts, ~ and categories
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lugnet.cad
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Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:55:40 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, Sergio Reano wrote:
> In lugnet.cad, Michael Heidemann wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad, Philippe Hurbain wrote:
> > > It is common practice to prefix parts that compose assembled parts with a ~.
> > > This prevent using them needlessly (they are not listed with regular parts),
> > > encouraging the use of assembled shortcuts.
> > >
> > > But this practice is not ratified by any official LDraw document. As a LDraw
> > > Standards Committee member, I'd like to precise this usage. This is a request
> > > for comments...
> >
> >
> > There is one document that introduced this.
> > http://www.ldraw.org/library/tracker/ref/filetypesfaq/
> >
> > I found we have different problems to solve:
> > 1) Usage of the tilde '~' for files in the \s folder.
> > 2) Usage of the tilde '~' for files in the \parts folder
> > 3) Is the tilde '~' part of the description or only a flag.
> >
> > I think as follow:
> > 1) As nearly all files in the \s folder do have a leading '~' we should force
> > that for files in the s\ folder.
> >
> > 2a) I don't feel that we should make things that complicated.
> > If we have a shortcut for the complete part (as we have today). It is no problem
> > to figure out which parts to bring into a new file to get what we want.
> > The other way would blow up the library.
> > Just if you are working with MLCad it is not a problem to generate what you
> > need.
> >
> > 2b) To work with LSynth is really make sense to have the ends visible to find
> > that. Although also here a global shortcut will have all the user needs. And
> > again it is easy to identify what you need with MLCad.
> > But we should be consistent in using or not using the '~' for such parts.
> >
> > 3) As the '~' is used as a flag we should also handle it as that, so if there is
> > a partfile in the \parts folder that carry the '~' in front of the
> > partdescription the partdescription is assumed to be without the '~' and so the
> > first word has to be in the category list or a category has to be mentioned (See
> > requirement: http://www.ldraw.org/Article398.html).
> > This has also to be decided for the "_" flag for colored parts!
> >
> > cu
> > mikeheide
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> Hi,
> I read the above article and is OK, but many parts do not follow these
> requirements:
> for example part 71427C01.DAT distributed as official is named as assembly but
> contains the whole part definition inside with no references to any subparts but
> parts\P parts.
>
> In my personal opinion, from a programmer point of view, it could be a good
> practice to correctly code as assembly at least those parts that allow
> reciprocal movement in between them.
> For example a switch has a lever that moves while the base is static; a motor
> has an axle that rotate while the rest of the model is static.
>
> Other assembly should be multicolored parts (with the exclusion of patterned
> parts), since sometime these color can change.
>
> One more question: what does the suffixes "Dxx" and "Txx" stand for?
>
> regards...
>
> Sergio
Please understand that the LDraw Parts Library is over 12 years old and
standards evolve over time. Things that were done in 1999, when 71427c01.dat was
created, wouldn't necessarily be done the same way now.
*dNN.dat files are parts with stickers applied
*tNN.dat files are non-standard, and the only representative in the official is
in fact a ~Moved to (i.e re-direct) file .
Chris
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| (...) I can understand the problem of aged parts, but, again from a programmer approach, I have to manage both "old" and "new" parts, so it will be very helpful if all parts can follow the same coding and naming standard. Please, consider the (...) (15 years ago, 19-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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| (...) Hi, I read the above article and is OK, but many parts do not follow these requirements: for example part 71427C01.DAT distributed as official is named as assembly but contains the whole part definition inside with no references to any (...) (15 years ago, 18-Nov-09, to lugnet.cad)
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