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Re: Opinion on the Sopwith Camel?
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lugnet.build.sculpture, lugnet.build.military
Date: 
Tue, 20 Nov 2001 01:37:30 GMT
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In lugnet.build.sculpture, Joel Hart writes:
> --- DaveG <peagreen@intergate.ca> wrote:
> > In lugnet.build.sculpture, Lindsay Frederick Braun
> > writes:
> > > In lugnet.build.sculpture, George Haberberger writes:
> > > > In lugnet.build.sculpture, Mike Case writes:
> > > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:19:42 GMT, "Mark" • <snowleopard@foxinternet.net>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > It is a nice kit, very detailed.  Just one gripe, • this baby packs tons of
> > > > > > torque, when you spin the props, the engine spins • with it.  I thought  it
> > > > > > was kind of a cheap maneuver but it does look good • and there certainly are
> > > > > > ways to work around it if you want the prop to spin • freely.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Wasn't this an intentional part of the design?  I had • thought that the
> > > > > radial engines of that era rotated around a central • shaft just like
> > > > > the model.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Mike
> > > > 
> > > > If the engine spins with the propellor, then it is a • rotary engine, and it
> > > > is correct, see this link for more detail,
> > 
> > > http://www.theaerodrome.com/aircraft/gbritain/sopwith/camel.html • .
> > > > 
> > > > In reality, the rotary engine packed so much torque • that inexperience pilots
> > > > routinely crashed flying the Camel. Experienced pilots • knew how to
> > > > compensate for it, and used the torque to their • advantage, amking the Camel
> > > > extremely manueverable. Often, a pilot would turn 240 • degrees one way to
> > > > make a 120 degree turn the other way, there was that • much torque.
> > > > 
> > > > There was a discussion about rotary and radial engines • in lugnet.military
> > > > not too long ago.
> > > 
> > >   I've been trying to find a diagram of the old rotary • engine,
> > >   but searches always bring up the Wankel engine, which • isn't
> > >   nearly the same thing.  I'm trying to get a sense for • how
> > >   much of the engine rotated, and how fuel delivery was • done if
> > >   the cylinders were spinning.  To be honest, I didn't • think that
> > >   the engine *did* spin, but I've never seen a running • rotary
> > >   engine (!!) so I can't speak from experience.
> > > 
> > >   Anyone have any good information/references?
> > > 
> > >   best
> > > 
> > >   LFB
> > 
> > Try "radial engine" or "radial rotary engine"
> > the more correct term for the engine type in
> > your search.
> > 
> > Best
> > DaveG
> 
> I have two great books I found at Borders Books a few weeks
> ago.  They are the "Illustrated Encyclopedia of Military
> Aircraft" and  "Illustrated Encyclopedia of Civil Aircraft"
> both by Enzo Angelucci.  Between these two books they have
> most every fixed wing craft ever built.  In the first book
> a number of engines are highlighted.  The Gnome Monosoupape
> 100 hp, Clerget 9B and Le Rhone 110 hp, are three examples
> of rotary engines used by the Allied powers. All three were
> developed in France.  I found this website
> http://www.keveney.com/gnome.html  using the first engine
> on the net.  Hopefully this helps!

   It sure does--thanks to all.  I just needed a graphic
   explanation of how the engine stroked.  :)

   I've always passed Angelucci up, only because he goes for
   breadth over depth.  But for comparative discussion that's
   more valuable, no doubt about it.

   best

   LFB



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