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Re: P-51D Mustang with red cowling
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Tue, 13 Jan 2004 02:01:52 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Mattias Martensson wrote:
   Hi

Inspired by two excellent P-51D Mustangs recently published here and on Brickshelf by Douglas R. Clark and David Thomas Jr, I have rushed to complete my own version

   http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=68751

Wow, that is a really good MOC. I think it is really interesting how both of our attempts take such different approaches & compromises to modeling the P-51 and yet both pull it off quite well. I cannot wait to see the photos. It would be cool to see both of them next to each other sometime.

   My model must have the same dihedral property, but could it be included in a minifig scale model? You can see my solution by using hinge-plates locked by two rotated Technic 1X4 plates in one of the pictures. This method gives a very stable and compact solution. You will have plenty of room for the pilot in the cockpit above.

That is really great and gets the angle just right. Though, I am reluctant to rebuild my version of the P-51 for now, I will definitely be using this design in my next warbird MOC.

  
Other parts that were a bit tricky are the engine cowling, the propeller and the canopy. The standard Lego propeller is a bit small so I developed my own using a round 2x2 plate and the same Technic 1X4 plates. For cowling the problem was getting the exhausts look right Here I have used 1x1 plates with vertical clips offcenterd by 1/2 stud in two directions. The solution for the Bubble canopy is to use the fine starwars windscreen 41883 (for the moment a unofficial Ldraw part) combined with the plane 1x4 windscreen 31661.

I like the way you did the engine exhausts. I really wanted to include the checkerboard patterning on mine so I kinda copped out and used the 1x2 plates with round holders. While trying to think of ideas for a P-40 MOC, I had the idea that using town-minifig binoculars would make really great exhaust stacks.

The prop. does look right. The standard lego prop is too small for this scale.

I had thought about using the new starwars canopy on my version but could not make it look right. Using the adventurers windscreen helps. How does it look in real life? The detail gets alittle lost in the renders. Its kind of ironic that we can design beautiful looking aircraft MOCs and work all sorts of wonderful detail into them using the pieces that Lego gives us until we get to the canopy/windscreen. It would be really nice if Lego would make a couple of generic canopie parts that actually resembled real-life aircraft canopies..


   The next step for improvements can be to incorporate the genius folding landing gears invented by Douglas Clark, but I am not certain it will fit in my thin wing.

The current version of my gear design reqires a total wing thickness of 4 plates and the clips that hold the lightsaber rod & flag piece add one more plate thickness to the overall assembly for a total of 5 plates of vertical space. On my P-51 it was a challenge to incorporate the required thickness and still have the wings look thin enough... One day I will try to incorporate your dihedral design into mine and see how it turns out.


Thanks for sharing.... now we just need some German aircraft to shoot at!

drc



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  P-51D Mustang with red cowling
 
Hi Inspired by two excellent P-51D Mustangs recently published here and on Brickshelf by Douglas R. Clark and David Thomas Jr, I have rushed to complete my own version of this famous and beautiful aircraft. You can see the first CAD-renderings here. (...) (21 years ago, 11-Jan-04, to lugnet.announce.moc, lugnet.build.military, lugnet.loc.se, lugnet.modelteam) !! 

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