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Re: A really simple technical question
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Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:01:24 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Kyle Henneberque writes:
In lugnet.build.military, Mike Case writes:
Ultimately, isn't the difference between a tank and a self propelled
gun that a tank has a turret?

Not quite.  A self-propelled gun is a gun, an artillery piece.
Self-propelled artillery has very little armor.  Usually just enough to
protect the operaters from small arms fire.  The gun is meant to be fired at
great distances, generally over the horizon.  There is no turret because
there is no need for one.  Turrets are used on tanks to help increase the
field of fire and aid in getting your sights on target quickly, because you
are in close quarters combat (relatively speaking).  The gun uses the whole
platform to aim because as soon as you get the gun aimed to where it needs
to be, you usually won't move until your bombardment is done.  The
self-propelled howitzer is not a close quarters combat weapon.

um, no, I believe you are mistaken.  The m109 (which is the howitzer I'm
familiar with) had a turret.  And that's because, usually, in the same
position, you will be tasked with quite a few fire missions - on different
targets.  So you have to adjust, sometimes slightly, sometimes not so slightly
left and right.  Also, the way you aim the gun, is done over a few shots, with
your spotter correcting you.  Meaning that you will have to do very fine
adjustments, which would be very hard if you moved the whole platform to do.

here's some specs for the M109:

  http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m109.htm

The ones I used to ride in were slightly modified by the IDF, but you usually
wouldn't notice the difference.

:)

Dan



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Hi- Dan references an excellent website with information about military hardware: The Federation of American Scientists: www.fas.org The link to the page about Land Weapons Systems has a good discussion of Direct and Indirect weapons: (URL) it up, (...) (21 years ago, 26-Mar-03, to lugnet.build.military)

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(...) Not quite. A self-propelled gun is a gun, an artillery piece. Self-propelled artillery has very little armor. Usually just enough to protect the operaters from small arms fire. The gun is meant to be fired at great distances, generally over (...) (22 years ago, 22-Mar-03, to lugnet.build.military)

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