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  Re: IRON MECHA Results!
 
(...) This is like the difference between Fantasy and Science Fiction, which I often like to explain. :-) Science Fiction requires some intellectual rigor and logic. You can certainly make up weird new science, but it has to be self consistent. (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
 
  Re: IRON MECHA Results!
 
(...) Philip K Dick, among countless others, has also addressed this. His distinction between sci-fi and fantasy was similar but more fundamental: if an element of the story is considered impossible, then it's fantasy. Not "improbable" or "currently (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
 
  Re: IRON MECHA Results!
 
(...) Another interesting study of Sci-Fi vs. Fantasy can be found in Henry Gee's (URL) Science of Middle Earth>. His point is that science fiction has at least some focus on the technology that makes the 'impossible' possible. Fantasy, he suggests (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, FTX)
 
  Re: IRON MECHA Results!
 
(...) Hmmm, good explanation. If we're equating 'self-consistency' with 'realism' then I agree with you. A good mecha design is not going to have any 'out-of-place' details. I guess I misunderstood your initial argument. but on the other hand: (...) (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.build.mecha)
 
  Re: IRON MECHA Results!
 
(...) The extreme definition: Science fiction is an extrapolation, linear perhaps. Fantasy is a random point, connected to nothing. (...) Self-consistency of pseudo science is a drag on the plot. It spoils the fun in Fantasy realms. :-) (...) Yes (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, FTX)
 
  Re: IRON MECHA Results!
 
(...) Hmmm... Science Fiction has little to do with reality. Allow me to use my absolutely most favorite sci-fi space ship, Imperial (Imperator) Class Star Destroyer. I love Star Destroyers, I drool over any image of a Star Destroyer, however, at (...) (19 years ago, 9-Feb-06, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)
 
  Re: IRON MECHA Results!
 
(...) Sorry, but Star Wars isn't science fiction.:-) Really, it isn't. The technology is contrived for the sake of the story, which is why it's unrealistic. The space ships have windows! Cap ships exchange broadsides a few feet away from each other! (...) (19 years ago, 10-Feb-06, to lugnet.build.mecha, FTX)

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