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Re: New Capital Ship: HMS Queen
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lugnet.build
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Fri, 28 Jul 2000 16:53:03 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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> > I know you based it on British ships, but it was easier for me to find U.S.
> > examples on the web (mostly because I figured I could type in USS (name of
> > state) and get results). The HMS Queen is not too far off BB1-3 (Indiana,
> > Massachusetts and Oregon) which all fought in the Spanish-American war and
> > would be contemporary with the 1894 date for the Queen. ...
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> Give that man a gold cigar! Or a Cuban star! Or something like that. (Hey, • for
> the 1898 war, a Cuban would be apropo.) That's actually where the foremast • and
> bridge arrangement originated--the heavy pole mast is a feature usually • associated
> with US ships. I figured it'd be easier to render in brick.
A friend of mine and I played Avalon Hill's Jutland to death when it first
came out. I always wished there had been something in that weird twilight zone
when BBs were first developing.
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> > Better bow freeboard,
> > and the funnels are closer together than the American BBs (abbreviation for
> > Battleship, for those who may not be familiar), but very close, actually. • They
> > even had 13" main guns - bigger than the 12" you mention as usual at your
> > website.
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> They were supposedly inferior weapons to the British 12" and the German 11"--I
> can't recall why at present, but it may have to do with the forging process • that
> created them. At least European powers never stacked their turrets one atop • the
> other a la Kearsarge (which IIRC remains the only US battleship with a hull • number
> that's not named after a state--useless trivia alert! whoop whoop).
Might be throw-weight (the shell from the 18" Yamato guns wasn't much heavier
than the shell from the 16" Missouri guns, for example). Might be velocity
(couldn't pack in as much powder, which would be consistent with what you say).
Drat, now I won't be happy until I find out.
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> Anyways, good eye! The stacks and their arrangement are the primary German • feature
> on the ship (see late mods of old Braunschweig-type ships, I believe).
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> best
1>Lindsay
I'll have to check my book on ships through the ages when I get home.
Bruce
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