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Attack of the Compartmentalization
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lugnet.admin.suggestions
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Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:16:01 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
> In lugnet.loc.au, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.loc.au, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
> > > I thought I'd do it this way for a couple of reasons...to show those who do
> > > this how annoying it is when the country isn't mentioned,
> >
> > Wait...
> >
> > You did this on purpose, not just by accident, but rather to "prove a point"??
> >
> > Not sure that was a good idea. If you think there is change needed, there
> > are channels to suggest it, which may be a better approach than deliberatley
> > doing things the wrong way in order to stir up controversy. IMHO anyway.
> >
> > For example you could post to admin.suggestions... the market groups
> > charters are under discussion of revision as it is and this would be a good
> > time to make such a change.
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> Well...I have suggested in the past that this should be done...and been
> shouted down about it by US posters...This was the only way of getting my
> point across that I could find.
I'm not sure it would work, though. I mean, it has a very satisfying
"tweak" quality, which I appreciate, but annoyance generally provokes
defiance in those who would be likely to "shout you down." Those among
the USians who agree with you (like me, for example) aren't in that
category to begin with, so you're tweaking the choir.
(To be fair, I often don't mention the country, but I do mention
the specifically American geographical context. A failing, perhaps,
though if I saw "NSW K-mart sale" I'd know it was Oz.)
> > > and also so those
> > > Ockers who don't look at .loc.au can hear about it.
> >
> > This is not a good reason. If it were then posting anything to anywhere
> > would be allowed. And it's not. compartmentalisation means everything has a
> > place. You may not like that but that's the way it is.
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> No complaints...though from what I can tell, .market.shopping is the perfect
> place for this, and .general seems to be filled with posts that should be in
> their specific compartments...
I'm perfectly in favor of people posting non-US sale notices
in the general .market groups, but it helps everyone to give it
some kind of geographical modifier (including those in Oz who
may have filed "unspecified location" under the heading "US only"
as you reasonably indict US posters for doing). Is there even a
generic .loc.us ng in existence? Somehow I'd thought it dropped
directly to the loc.us.state groups.
<psa>
Besides, our Kmart SW LEGO sale in the US is 20% off, not 15. ;)
(Starts Sunday--go buy now, and then get the money back on Sunday!)
</psa>
Also: "Ockers?" That's a new one on me. I learn something new
every day!
> Anyway, according to the following, I don't see any problems with what I did:
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> lugnet.general– General community discussion of LEGO® sets,... item pricing
> and availability, etc. ...
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> lugnet.market.shopping– Retail, mail-order, and online shopping:
> information, ...
I agree with Ben on this. Again, I suggest the geographical
modifier for all parties, just as a way of heading off inevitable
questions from drooling, sale-happy Lugnetters.
A question, though: I thought that .org.au was in part intended
to give Australia a "mainly Australia" forum for all that information
that people feared was getting lost in the flood of US and European
information that dominated the regular .market groups and so forth?
I'm not in favor of ghettoizing .au there *at all*, because I for one
realize that .au posters' contribution is disproportionately great
across LUGNET in quantity *and* quality, but I recall some newsgroup
designed for that reason. That may be what some folks are thinking
of in terms of "compartmentalization" for Australian matters--not
that they want you to go there, but that they thought you'd chosen
to go there already. (Correct me if I'm wrong, nameless masses!)
So in short, I agree 100% with Ben's complaint, but I think it's
kind of useless to perform the tweak (unless the goal was to raise
this particular issue for discussion, in which case my hat's off
to you, good sir). Other than that, I'm dead tired too, so maybe
I'm just rambling uselessly as the drool strings off my lower lip.
all best
LFB
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