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Re: My Stance
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Date: 
Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:23:39 GMT
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:32:59 GMT, "Mike Stanley"
<cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote:

Mike, when you talk about my webpage you are talking about my home.
In my home I express myself the way I want.  Granted I was wrong to
try and advertise the opinions in my home here, in someone else's
home.  However as I said I must learn to control my expressions and
opinions in other peoples homes because I must respect their wishes.
However I will not change all of my core values and beliefs because I
am not what you want me to be.  The most I can do is to act the way
that is appropriate to act in this forum and keep my opinions to
myself.  By keeping them to myself I mean in my home.  I will admit
though that many of the opinions that are in my home do not truly
express what I feel and I am in the process of revising them to
reflect my rational view rather than my inflamed one.

-Matthew

In lugnet.admin.general, Tim Courtney writes:
Well, lets move on.  If you can prove yourself and this discussion goes
well, I probably won't have a problem with you being allowed back into the
community.  Still, it all depends on others' feelings here.

You're far too forgiving.  I'll chalk that up to you being young (and being
young and forgiving aren't bad things, although they can lead to more pain for
the forgiving one).

This guy isn't ready to "move on".  He hasn't "moved on".

At the time that he posted this, and during which time you guys are doing the
typical "I'm a nice person and I want to act like a nice person so I'll give
even the biggest blankety-blank jerk in the world a second chance if he can
just act nice too" this guys STILL has his horribly disrespectful graphic
about James Jessiman on his website.

He can put whatever he wants on his website, but do you think for a MINUTE,
that someone with the lack of respect, the sheer spite, the ill will he must
harbor (and has made clear he harbors) for this community, that the same
person who could put that graphic up, post ad nauseam about James being our
tin god, etc, could then turn around and just make nice and be an accepted
member of this community?

Maybe some of you could answer yes to that (I couldn't).  But could that
person, with any honest legitimate interest in apologizing or earning back his
posting privileges on LUGNET keep the freaking thing on his website after he's
been offered the chance to make his case here?

Some of you guys are trying WAY to hard to be nice and understanding, probably
because you read what he wrote about the community and can't stand the thought
that he might even in a tiny way be right, so you're willing to bend over
backwards to prove to yourselves and to him that we're good people.

I suffer from no such need to prove myself.  Some think me a good person, some
think me a bastard.  In some ways both groups are right (you guys know Mike
the Lego Guy, you don't know Mike the Mad He's Been Called at 2AM Because Some
Moron Crashed His Server and Didn't Prepare for a Disaster and Thinks its
Mike's Problem Guy).  I know I'm a decent person.  And I know the vast
majority of you guys are great people - some of the nicest, most welcoming,
friendly, trustworthy people I know.  Truth be told, the extreme offense I
take at the slander of James' memory is second only to the offense that I take
that some of the best people I've come into contact with online have been so
roundly attacked by this loser.

No, he's not changed.  He wasn't misunderstood.  He IS a prime example of the
word I used to describe him in my more angry response a couple days ago.  And
he DOESN'T need to be here.  And none of you need to feel guilty about
agreeing with that.  Period.



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