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Re: My Stance
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lugnet.admin.general
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Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:23:39 GMT
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moulton@hscis/NoSpam/.net
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:32:59 GMT, "Mike Stanley"
<cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote:
Mike, when you talk about my webpage you are talking about my home.
In my home I express myself the way I want. Granted I was wrong to
try and advertise the opinions in my home here, in someone else's
home. However as I said I must learn to control my expressions and
opinions in other peoples homes because I must respect their wishes.
However I will not change all of my core values and beliefs because I
am not what you want me to be. The most I can do is to act the way
that is appropriate to act in this forum and keep my opinions to
myself. By keeping them to myself I mean in my home. I will admit
though that many of the opinions that are in my home do not truly
express what I feel and I am in the process of revising them to
reflect my rational view rather than my inflamed one.
-Matthew
> In lugnet.admin.general, Tim Courtney writes:
> > Well, lets move on. If you can prove yourself and this discussion goes
> > well, I probably won't have a problem with you being allowed back into the
> > community. Still, it all depends on others' feelings here.
>
> You're far too forgiving. I'll chalk that up to you being young (and being
> young and forgiving aren't bad things, although they can lead to more pain for
> the forgiving one).
>
> This guy isn't ready to "move on". He hasn't "moved on".
>
> At the time that he posted this, and during which time you guys are doing the
> typical "I'm a nice person and I want to act like a nice person so I'll give
> even the biggest blankety-blank jerk in the world a second chance if he can
> just act nice too" this guys STILL has his horribly disrespectful graphic
> about James Jessiman on his website.
>
> He can put whatever he wants on his website, but do you think for a MINUTE,
> that someone with the lack of respect, the sheer spite, the ill will he must
> harbor (and has made clear he harbors) for this community, that the same
> person who could put that graphic up, post ad nauseam about James being our
> tin god, etc, could then turn around and just make nice and be an accepted
> member of this community?
>
> Maybe some of you could answer yes to that (I couldn't). But could that
> person, with any honest legitimate interest in apologizing or earning back his
> posting privileges on LUGNET keep the freaking thing on his website after he's
> been offered the chance to make his case here?
>
> Some of you guys are trying WAY to hard to be nice and understanding, probably
> because you read what he wrote about the community and can't stand the thought
> that he might even in a tiny way be right, so you're willing to bend over
> backwards to prove to yourselves and to him that we're good people.
>
> I suffer from no such need to prove myself. Some think me a good person, some
> think me a bastard. In some ways both groups are right (you guys know Mike
> the Lego Guy, you don't know Mike the Mad He's Been Called at 2AM Because Some
> Moron Crashed His Server and Didn't Prepare for a Disaster and Thinks its
> Mike's Problem Guy). I know I'm a decent person. And I know the vast
> majority of you guys are great people - some of the nicest, most welcoming,
> friendly, trustworthy people I know. Truth be told, the extreme offense I
> take at the slander of James' memory is second only to the offense that I take
> that some of the best people I've come into contact with online have been so
> roundly attacked by this loser.
>
> No, he's not changed. He wasn't misunderstood. He IS a prime example of the
> word I used to describe him in my more angry response a couple days ago. And
> he DOESN'T need to be here. And none of you need to feel guilty about
> agreeing with that. Period.
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