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Re: Opinions wanted: article rating harmful? (was: New feature: Article rating)
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Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:12:32 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:

Specific personal questions:

1.  How would you feel (better or worse) if the numeric values of the ratings
were not displayed to you unless you specifically requested (via some simple
setting) that they be displayed to you?

Then its a blind crapshoot.  I, for instance, am a member but simply have not
bothered to rate any articles as I can decide for myself what was worth
reading.  A rating system is, in and of itself, one of two things:  1. a
critiqueing system.  2. a popularity contest.  While neither is of itself
necessarily a bad thing, without multiple rating criteria, its pretty useless.
It likes rating the color green only the basis of the color green.  Green
compared to red? How green makes you feel? All greens or only LEGO green? etc.
The results will be desparate.

2.  How would you feel (better or worse) if the numeric values of the ratings
were not displayed ever to anyone but collected and used by the server only
for internal calculations, hotlist generation, and personal recommendations
to you?

Doesn't matter to me.

3.  How would you feel (better or worse) if the ratings were not even
collected and collated in the first place?  (i.e. the destruction of the
feature altogether)

Your original intent is admirable, however, from the messages you have gotten,
things don't seem to be going as intended.  I'd say lose it.

4.  Have you ever felt victimized by the rating system?  Have you posted
something which has obtained a low rating and felt uncomfortable or unhappy
about yourself or about LUGNET because of the low rating?  How often?

Nope, don't even pay much attention to it.

5.  Have you ever felt victimized indirectly by seeing someone else's post
get a high rating?  How often?

Nope.

6.  Do you feel that the article rating system makes it easier for you or
harder for you to share your ideas?  And does this bother you?

Nope.

7.  How does your initial reaction to the announcement of the article rating
system compare to your current opinion of it?

The word SNAFU comes to mind, not through anyones fault.

8.  Do you feel that it is too early, too late, or the right time to address
these issues?

It is definitely the right time.

9.  What other areas (besides news articles) can you imagine that a
collaborative ratings system would be most helpful to you?  LEGO sets?
Websites?  Individual web pages?  etc...

Again, rating systems become either critiques or popularity contests.  Noone is
a winner.  It creates a democracy that, but its pure definition, is
exclusionary.

Thanks for your time,
--Todd

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All, It seems at this point that the article rating feature -- intended to help -- is actually causing more harm than good to the community. It's difficult to gauge how much harm is being done when opinions are so varied, but it's clear that (...) (25 years ago, 20-Apr-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general, lugnet.announce) !! 

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