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Re: Technic sidebar thingie
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lugnet.admin.general
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Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:00:55 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Geoffrey Hyde wrote:
> Chris ... I think you are trying to do little more than argue an argument
> to it's unarguable end.
Unfortunately, I believe you are correct.
> That is why Ross Crawford redirected it to .debate when he did.
I don't know his motives any better than I assume you do, but it seems to me
that he moved it to .debate in order to marginalize my attempts to steer this
discussion back toward the central issue of his conduct.
> What problem are you having with the solution that the Site
> Administrator Rene Hoffmeister decided to implement in this case? Perhaps
> it is Rene you should be arguing with, not Ross, and since Rene rarely
> changes his mind once he makes his administrative decision, I doubt there is
> much point in further useless debate cluttering up the .admin.general
> newsgroup on this server.
I have e-mailed Rene privately about this matter, and only made my comments
public when I began to suspect that my messages were landing in his spam folder.
> Kindly realize that you are not the only person reading LUGNET, and while
> some may find it interesting I find that you are getting extremely boring
> nitpicking Ross to the last nit on the planet in this case of an
> administrative action that went slightly wrong.
So sorry to bore you with my petty concerns. Please, don't let me distract you
from the excitement of reading about dangling HTML tags on the new LUGNET front
page.
> I'm hereby calling for Rene
> to either lock/delete further replies to this thread - if that can even be
> done - or move them to .debate where they belong.
That makes perfect sense! Rene should take unprecedented administrative action
against the community for expressing our outrage, but should do absolutely
nothing in response to the initial incident which caused all of this.
Brilliant!
> As far as I can see no overall harm has actually been done, it just created
> some confusion which has since been sorted out. Please, everyone, give the
> debating in .admin.general a rest.
The real harm that has been done is to the community's trust of this board. We
have now seen that a curator will be allowed to use their position to carry out
a personal attack against another member without any repercussion. Maybe that
doesn't bother you. It clearly does bother a good many people here, and we are
still waiting for some kind of reassuring administrative statement. So I do not
agree that the "confusion" has "since been sorted out."
> I'm a subscriber to LUGNET newsgroups through their NNTP server and I do
> hang out on LUGNET at the moment, and I'm really shocked to see that people
> will continue to argue to the death of the argument - that almost killed
> LUGNET once, I don't want it being done again.
If you subscribe to .admin.general, then you should expect to receive every
message that crosses this group. This is an administrative issue, and this
discussion correctly belongs in this group. And please don't try to blame me
for the length of this discussion thread. If you want to point fingers, look no
further than he who lit the fuse.
What "almost" killed LUGNET was the endless flame wars. Which is precisely why
LUGNET the organization must not be allowed to become party to those very flame
wars, as has happened in this case. If Ross doesn't think he did anything
wrong, and if Rene doesn't take any action, then I guarantee that we will be
right back here "debating" in .admin general 3 months from now.
(sigh.)
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| "Chris Phillips" <drvegetable@comcast.net> wrote in message news:JDqEKz.JzF@lugnet.com... (...) Chris ... I think you are trying to do little more than argue an argument to it's unarguable end. That is why Ross Crawford redirected it to .debate (...) (17 years ago, 20-Feb-07, to lugnet.admin.general)
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