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Re: Rate the factions
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Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:03:55 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, David Eaton writes:
In lugnet.castle, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
http://members.lugnet.com/polls/ballots/?n=80

One other request: no ratings trashing.  By that I mean please don't
delibrately go through giving everything a zero and your favorite a 10 just
to make it look good.  I can tell when you have done it (and since I'm
posting this, guess what someone has done).

This is indeed a problem.

I noticed this quite a while back with set ratings, too. Someone went
through and rated just about all the classic castle sets "0". Now, given
that there were at least 50 votes or so for each set, it didn't affect the
overall numbers *that* much-- BUT, it did affect their placement in the "top
100 sets" lists. 0's lowered the score enough to take them out of rank with
where they 'should' have been.

Ahhhh, I knew there was something I forgot.  I looked at all the set
ratings, and noticed some weinie had gone through and rated a bunch of very
good sets as 0, in a fit of ratings trashing.  I was curious as to where
things would fall out if things were evened, so I went through and put zeros
on all the top items that didn't have one.  It nullifies ratings trashers,
but it's a lot like work.  I've been meaning to go through and reset my
ratings since my curiousity has been satisfied (but I'll tell you, putting a
zero on something moves it down significantly when you are looking at the
top 100 sets).

Suggestion:

For every N votes received, remove the highest and lowest vote.
Theoretically, it won't affect the score too much if votes are spread in a
bell curve, as they *should* be, but it *will* affect scores when votes are
cast sporatically, such as the occasional intentional "0" (or even a "10",
although this seems to be less common).

Yes, but are The Powers That Be willing to go to the trouble of programming
that?  Good suggestion. I'm going to put a Spotlight vote on your message to
try and bring it to the Powers attention.


I actually tried this at the time (a few months after 6067 was re-released)
with set rankings, with different values of N-- and oddly enough, 6067 was
ranked #1 more than with any other set for any value of N tried (I tried
something like 10 values of N? I forget offhand). And (at the time), 6067
had been ranked something like #20 or something, when it should have been at
least within the top 3, if not #1.

DaveE



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  Re: Rate the factions
 
(...) Question is more likely, is it easily feasible? Doing a more-or-less standard select,sum,and average query on a database is pretty easy, and is pretty optomized. Picking out the X high and X low votes and removing them before taking the (...) (22 years ago, 13-Sep-02, to lugnet.admin.general)

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