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In lugnet.build.ancient, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
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Trying to catch up, very slowly.
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Hi, Bruce. Thanks for taking out some time from the holidays to comment.
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David Collects a Third Wife - Great face on Nabal. I also like the pattern snip
Im not a fan of the studs on the back of Abigails legs
here, perhaps if instead you used something like
this brick.
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I forced myself into a corner on that one. Its the chance you take using a
relatively rare color like dark blue for a minifigs outfit. I would probably
have avoided the studs using a dark blue 2x2 or 1x2 tile if I had any, but I
dont. The piece you suggested seems like it would work well, but alas it is
one of many, many elements not currently available in dark blue.
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In
this scene I like the bed design. Is that a Fabuland headboard?
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I believe it is.
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The 1x1
tall round brick is nice along the bottom of the bed. Good blood trail in
the God struck him down scene. In the last scene, what is that torso on
Paltiel? Its really nice.
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Thats the torso of Keiken from the Exo-Force. Id been wanting to get my hands on that fig since
it first came out, and finally shelled out the money to get him on Bricklink. I
was very happy to have such a distinctive old man face, plus the old man in a
rage face on the back. The torso is nice too, as you noted.
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David Spares Saul Again - In the second pic, are those real tents? I had
assumed they were just black double slopes until I reallized that Sauls blue
and white tent was in the mix.
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Your first impression was correct; those are black slope micro-tents. Thats
also a micro version of Sauls tent just made with alternating blue and white
plates. Glad the illusion works.
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Good use of the double sided face on Abishai.
Why does Saul sometimes wear a Slytherin badge and other times not? (Also,
is the non-badge torso a modified version of the badge version, or is there
another torso with a similar pattern?)
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Whoa, you caught a slip-up. I really like that Harry Potter torso (theres
another like it in crimson with a gold band) except for the badge. For most of
the photos I resorted to photoshopping out the badge and covering it up with
another wrinkle or two to match the ones already there. But it looks like
this one slipped past me. I suppose I could come up with an ad-hoc
justification (perhaps its only his sleeping robe that has the badge?), but
thats weak. I messed up. Perhaps one day Ill correct it.
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In
this pic, is Davids arm and spear just leaning there? How many times did
that fall down in photographing the scene? :)
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Heh, it fell over a lot. Yep, thats just leaning there with good ol friction
and gravity.
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David Joins the Philistines - David looks good in a Philistine hat. The
repeated references to David and Sauls reconciliation are funny.
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David joining the Philistines (and the Israelites later not holding this against
him) is pretty confounding as the Bible presents it. Im not sure if theres a
logic to it Im missing or what, but I have read that scholars think that the
stories of 1 and 2 Samuel got jumbled around at some point so that they dont
really tell a coherent chronological story (despite it seemingly being presented
as if it were one). So maybe if the stories are sorted in the right order it
makes more sense, or maybe groups of originally independent David stories got
mixed together, or maybe there are stories that got dropped from the collection
that would have aided coherency. Who knows?
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David Massacres Women and Men - Lots of effective mayhem scenes here. In
27:8, the guy carrying a sheep over his head is funny. Great new camel
design.
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Of course I was wondering what youd think of the new camels when I was
redesigning them. Glad that get the Hietbrink approval. :)
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In the very last scene, I think Achish is trying to hyptonize me
through the screen.
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Those
little black lightning bolts under his eyes can have that effect.
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Saul and the Necromancer - In 28:5-6 Im curious as to what pieces make up he
out-of-focus Philstine army.
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I think for that scene I just used scores of blue minifig arms (with the yellow
hands in place). Since I keep minifig arms sorted by color, this has been a
handy solution in other scenes too. Usually the arms are used as corpses in
scenes depicting the massacre of tens of thousands of people (of the sort that
is so frighteningly common in the Bible).
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The necromancers home is cool with a jumble of
all sorts of objects. Im not thrilled with the necromancer herself made of
all those mismatched bits.
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The hat and epaulets may be a bit much, but I like the legs and torso combo. I
cant think of when else Ill get to use the dead cat necklace torso piece.
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The use of the Pooh hunny pot is inspired.
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Thanks.
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Philistines Reject David - Not a lot here to comment on. In the last pic,
Davids men do look fairly depressed. Good head choices.
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Thanks, I did try to position each figure so that the most let-down looking
faces were visible to the camera.
Looking forward to more comments, should you get the time to leave them. Hope
you had a nice Christmas with your burgeoning family.
-Brendan
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Going back to try and cover the stories I missed:
David Acts Insane - I really like the wall behind the Philistine kings throne.
The drool is funny as a LEGO joke, though Im not sure if its effective just
looking at it as a depiction of the scene. On the cave, I guess Id rather see
the whole thing as brick built rather than half of raised baseplates and half of
bricks.
People of Nob Massacred - Theres just something inherently funny about the
crowd of priests in their purple turbans. Some good violence depiction here,
like the trick with slicing the body in half
here and the line of blood down the wall
here. Any reason why Doeg switches from two cutlasses to one cutlass and one
broadsword?
David Attacks the Philistines - I particularly like
this scene. Thats a simple but effective fire. In the
battle scene, what is that battle axe in the upper left? Is it an official
piece? Having already read later chapters, I appreciate that youve got Joab
prominently featured from the start.
Davids Strong Men - Some good carnage scenes here, especially Abishais pile of
bodies. The yellow flags as barley is a clever idea and very effective. The
flower stems for the next field also works well. What is that mace that Benaiah
is using? Poor lion - first he gets stuck in a cistern, then some crazy guy
jumps in to fight him. Im not sure about the flowers as snow - they seem like
flowers to me. Also, how did you do the spear through the body in the last
scene? The trick on the arm posing in that scene works really well and looks
dynamic.
David Asks for a Drink, Refuses It - Interesting
gate here. I like the variation from plate to brick on the underside of the
arch, and the pairing of the two different types of arches is something I hadnt
seen before. That wheel makes a good well, and the pouring out of the water is
very effective.
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In lugnet.build.ancient, Brendan Powell Smith wrote:
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In lugnet.build.ancient, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
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Hi, Bruce. Your absence really made me appreciate how fortunate Ive been to
have someone so consistently providing detailed and thoughtful comments and
questions on each update to The Brick Testament. If you find time to go back
and comment on the last few updates, great, but please dont feel obligated.
Its just great to have you back.
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Nice to be appreciated. Ive started in on my missing commentary.
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I kind of imagined them carrying
down from Israel to Judah the king-making kit, including the wooden steps and
King Sauls royal robes. David wears the robes ceremonially in this scene to
show that he is now the king over all that was once Sauls. But in the next
story hes got his own royal military garb and his own
lounging-about-the-palace outfit once his palace is built.
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I was wondering about the green robe. Very well thought-out. Of course, David
somehow got several inches taller for the coronation. :)
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If so,
the elders from all the tribes shouldnt have matching white arms.
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-explanation-
I should have known that this was well planned and not a mistake. Seems like a
very sensible plan.
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Id be curious to hear how you interpret this story, specifically what David
says about hating the blind and lame, and the explanation of the common
saying. But that best be taken to off.topic.
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I really do think it was an insult referring to the Jebusites going back to
their taunt. It doesnt make sense to me otherwise.
This whole
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built-on-a-diagonal thing started because I was trying to solve the perennial
problem of trying to make a
good
pointed arch doorway out of LEGO. Ive seen it pulled off nicely on a
larger scale on some cathedral MOCs, but I have never figured out how to make
a decent one on a smaller scale. For this gate, I tried a new strategy (to
me at least) or using two half-arch pieces at a 90 degree angle to create something like a pointed
arch. If anyone has suggestions on a better way to achieve this feat, or
links to a MOC where its been done well, please do tell!
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Well, Ive seen someone make gothic arches by cutting arch bricks and putting
them together, but that offends my personal building ethic. You can do use two
1x2x3 inverse slopes, two 1x2 inverse slopes, ad two 1x3 inverse slopes, which
will give you a shape 8 wide at the base with a point at the top, but its not
quite the right shape (I did this
here, the top half of
the right hand doorway, when I was trying to come up with some shapes for Arabic
architecture).
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Just as a nitpick to your comments though, the names given in this story are
the names of the sons born to David.
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Doh!
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Thanks. I was happy with that shot. I have to admit, Im getting a little
worried about my continued ability to give these endless stories of wars and
massacres some personality in my depictions without simply repeating the same
old tricks.
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Perhaps I should be worried for myself that I continue to appreciate LEGO
violence.
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The
idea is to get people to see just what an unbelievable amount of the most
brutal sorts of violence makes up the bulk of the Old Testament.
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Id disagree with this characterization, but would rather focus on the brick
than argue this here.
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Heh, I still agree with you, but still dont have a more reliable solution.
Later in
this scene I used my other trick where a rubber band laces through the arm
holes and holds two normal minifig arms out to the sides. But for that you
need both arms out.
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You did have a nice optical illusion once where you hid a second figure behind
the first and you showed the arm of the second figure. I do wish that the ball
joint on a fig arm was a standard size (e.g. bar diameter) so that arms could be
more easily incorporated as build elements.
I love that scene of Michaels. Such a clever use of the Two-Face torso.
Bruce
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Hey Brendan,
Ive been meaning to go back and comment on the David/Saul stories before doing
this, but am afraid Ill just get further and further behind. I do intend to go
back and do those, but for now:
King me: Not a lot to comment on here. I notice here, and in the following
stories, you use a horse barding as a curtain edge. Thats a really clever
idea. I think this one
would be a really nice curtain. The steps for the guy crowning David is a funny
detail. One minor quibble, didnt you change up the arm colors in previous
stories to denote the different tribes? If so, the elders from all the tribes
shouldnt have matching white arms.
Blind and lame: Quibble with the name here. It seems obvious from the context
that the blind and lame is a sarcastic reference to the taunt of the
Jebusites, but your title makes it sound like youre reading it straight. The
townscaping with the quarter scale white buildings is nice. Im not a huge fan
of the tan city wall. I appreciate that youre giving it an interesting texture
with those large panel pieces, but theres something odd about the mixing of the
panels with the normal bricks and the 1x1x5 bricks. Maybe (and this is being a
really small quibble here) it would look better if the central two columns of
bricks
in this picture had the 1x1x1 on top of the 1x1x5, rather than the other way
around, so that the brick portions were matching. Brilliant use of the map
tile, and by far my favorite picture is Joab and the soldiers wading through the
tunnel. Nice face on Joab and torch solution in that pic, btw. Good action
shot on the army bursting out of the well (what are the pieces of that well,
btw, some wheel hub?). The gate built on an angle is really nice, and in the
last pic there is another good use of a horse barding.
Davids wives and kids: Not much to comment here except that great wide shot of
the throne room in the first pic. Putting the throne in the corner there is
really nice, and the overall color scheme of the room is striking. I
particularly like the alternating rust round posts and tan lion heads, and
patterned elements work together really well here. On the rest, it is nice that
you altered up the poses a little. Nepheg has some touching interaction with
David. Freaky makeup on Eliphelet.
War: As always, good action shots (especially
here). Idols before and after burning is nice. Good use of perspective
in this scene. Finally, the joke at the end is funny, and the Japanese setting
is a really nice MOC in its own right.
Dont touch the ark: As always, great Ark design, and also the oxen. The wagon
seems a little flimsy, but I guess thats why the Ark almost fell off. Im not
a fan of the brick-built instruments, but thats always a problem.
Photoshopping God onto the Ark is a funny detail. As before, Im not 100% on
the flex tubing as arms solution. The skinny arm seems a little cartoony (I
know, odd complaint for a LEGO story).
Over exposure: I really like that detail on Michals balcony with those odd
Technic wing pieces. The switching the perspective on the two halves of verse
16 is really nice. The shot from above seems like it would have been a
difficult photoshoot to get right (or is it photoshop trickery?). Im not a
huge fan of the tent, but oh well. That detail with the repeated hinge bricks
in Michals room is outstanding. The last scene of David leaving with the slave
girls is funny. I think hes losing his loincloth there, btw.
Bruce
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Hey Brendan,
Ive been meaning to go back and comment on the David/Saul stories before doing
this, but am afraid Ill just get further and further behind. I do intend to go
back and do those, but for now:
King me: Not a lot to comment on here. I notice here, and in the following
stories, you use a horse barding as a curtain edge. Thats a really clever
idea. I think this one
would be a really nice curtain. The steps for the guy crowning David is a funny
detail. One minor quibble, didnt you change up the arm colors in previous
stories to denote the different tribes? If so, the elders from all the tribes
shouldnt have matching white arms.
Blind and lame: Quibble with the name here. It seems obvious from the context
that the blind and lame is a sarcastic reference to the taunt of the
Jebusites, but your title makes it sound like youre reading it straight. The
townscaping with the quarter scale white buildings is nice. Im not a huge fan
of the tan city wall. I appreciate that youre giving it an interesting texture
with those large panel pieces, but theres something odd about the mixing of the
panels with the normal bricks and the 1x1x5 bricks. Maybe (and this is being a
really small quibble here) it would look better if the central two columns of
bricks
in this picture had the 1x1x1 on top of the 1x1x5, rather than the other way
around, so that the brick portions were matching. Brilliant use of the map
tile, and by far my favorite picture is Joab and the soldiers wading through the
tunnel. Nice face on Joab and torch solution in that pic, btw. Good action
shot on the army bursting out of the well (what are the pieces of that well,
btw, some wheel hub?). The gate built on an angle is really nice, and in the
last pic there is another good use of a horse barding.
Davids wives and kids: Not much to comment here except that great wide shot of
the throne room in the first pic. Putting the throne in the corner there is
really nice, and the overall color scheme of the room is striking. I
particularly like the alternating rust round posts and tan lion heads, and
patterned elements work together really well here. On the rest, it is nice that
you altered up the poses a little. Nepheg has some touching interaction with
David. Freaky makeup on Eliphelet.
War: As always, good action shots (especially
here). Idols before and after burning is nice. Good use of perspective
in this scene. Finally, the joke at the end is funny, and the Japanese setting
is a really nice MOC in its own right.
Dont touch the ark: As always, great Ark design, and also the oxen. The wagon
seems a little flimsy, but I guess thats why the Ark almost fell off. Im not
a fan of the brick-built instruments, but thats always a problem.
Photoshopping God onto the Ark is a funny detail. As before, Im not 100% on
the flex tubing as arms solution. The skinny arm seems a little cartoony (I
know, odd complaint for a LEGO story).
Over exposure: I really like that detail on Michals balcony with those odd
Technic wing pieces. The switching the perspective on the two halves of verse
16 is really nice. The shot from above seems like it would have been a
difficult photoshoot to get right (or is it photoshop trickery?). Im not a
huge fan of the tent, but oh well. That detail with the repeated hinge bricks
in Michals room is outstanding. The last scene of David leaving with the slave
girls is funny. I think hes losing his loincloth there, btw.
Bruce
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