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Hi Lugnet train fans!
anybody besides me who has looked into the new trains 60336 and 60337?
I was pleased, that the train system is still available at LEGO. Of course not
as exhaustive as the 1980 and 1991 roll-out of train sets, but still nice.
The passenger train has the new split-level base-plates that can be extended in
the center. It has doors (better suiding a shop than a train wagon), it even
includes light. And personally I love the fact, that it has a built front as the
orange horizon express (TGV) or Santa Fe - instead of incorporating a monobloc
part. Of course 2 sets are required to make it a decent train. My tip: buy it
now. The train is in the list of sets, that will go up in September.
Although I thought it to be the weaker design, I also would now rate the freight
train pretty high: this has lot's of clever play functions in the 2-deck car
transport and the loading ramp. And it is sturdy enough for any 6 year old to
handle it. The learge reach stacker to grab the containers is a great model on
it's own!
My kids and friends gave proof, that earlier sets had less play value. Maybe
worst was the infra-red train 7898: the crane waggon does not work at all. The
hook pulled up will move the main beam upwards instead. Releasing the hook does
not work as it is too light. There is just oo much friction in the cord way. On
top the winch will break off every time you touch it.
The cloosed goods waggon of 7898 carries 2 crates. And both can't be loaded with
a forklift as the doors are in the center and do not open wide enough.
The forklift does notz only look ugly but the gas tank is fixed to one stud
only: so it is permanently breaking off. Lego did a much better job in 2022!
Main downside on all new train sets: Lego gave up metal axles. The new ones run
worse than anything in the 9V area. Wheel sets will for sure become a
bottle-neck for MOCs soon. The 2018sets are still on sale and this is the last
chance to get new spares at reasonable costs.
Leg Godt!
Ben
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In lugnet.trains, "Reinhard \"Ben\" Beneke" <ben@1000steine.SPAM-block.com>
wrote:
> Hi
> Main downside on all new train sets: Lego gave up metal axles. The new ones run
> worse than anything in the 9V area. Wheel sets will for sure become a
> bottle-neck for MOCs soon. The 2018sets are still on sale and this is the last
> chance to get new spares at reasonable costs.
>
> Leg Godt!
>
> Ben
Postscriptum after a couple of weeks of play with the new trains (my kids loved
the train by appearance, but disliked it for being so much slower than the last
PU passenger train with the lighter+shorter cars).
The new passenger train was originally purchased twice and intended to run as
double package back-to-back with one motor replaced by a dummy (with cross
axles).
But one PU motor was not strong enough to overcome the friction of 20 train
wheel sets (+2x cross axles). The wheels of the engine slipped through after
passing points and any 90° curve sections.
Mostly the train was then run with engine-wagon-wagon-dummy-engine arrangement,
but speed was still quite poor. The new full-plastic wheel sets are to blame
here. Off the package they show higher resistance and this is not improving over
an operational time of some hours.
Now I have puchased 50+ (heavy-)used train wheel sets from bricklink at bargain
price.
Most have been the first generation from 1990ff with metal needle passing
through the wheels. Some have been newer with metal bar and wheels with plastic
tip.
I never found a real difference between these two types. For now I have put the
oldest ones into the 60337 and suddenly it runs sufficently on any oval as
6-piece double train:
engine-wagon-wagon-wagon-wagon-dummy-engine
Great improvement! I need more old wheel sets ...
Best Regards,
Ben
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