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Re: Beating up, kicking, and verbally abusing an old dead rotted horse...
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Date: 
Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:23:51 GMT
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Martin Legault wrote:

If Matt or someonelse rewrite the code (open sourced or not) I would suggest to
use a framework that is available to most of the OS like Qt or GTk. That way it
would be really easy to port to all OS not just the most known. Wine is working
fine for now but if TD is recompiled with the new visual C..., will it still run
thru wine?

My understanding is that the new Wine supports the .NET framework using MONO
(open source implementation of nearly all of .NET). I think it is older
programs, and game-like programs (like LEGO's designer) that it has trouble
with.

-Chris Gray

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Beating up, kicking, and verbally abusing an old dead rotted horse...
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.general
Date: 
Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:44:28 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Chris Gray wrote:
Martin Legault wrote:

If Matt or someonelse rewrite the code (open sourced or not) I would suggest to
use a framework that is available to most of the OS like Qt or GTk. That way it
would be really easy to port to all OS not just the most known. Wine is working
fine for now but if TD is recompiled with the new visual C..., will it still run
thru wine?

My understanding is that the new Wine supports the .NET framework using MONO
(open source implementation of nearly all of .NET). I think it is older
programs, and game-like programs (like LEGO's designer) that it has trouble
with.

-Chris Gray

Although Mono make it possible to run .NET application over Linux (without
wine), currently Mono fully support only .NET version 2 while microsoft already
have .NET 3.x and .NET 4 comming soon if not already available.

Mono will always be catching up .NET as nobody can implement the future version
before they are released as nobody know what will come next. Even if a (open
source) project is started with restriction that you must not use feature that
are not included in release X, someone will eventually do it, making it
impossible to run the application on Mono for some time.

The only way we can be sure that an application will run on all major desktop
platform (Linux, Mac and window) is to use only fully open-source framework as
any closed source one will rely on the closed source project for update and bug
fix and will eventually end with duplication of work as we can currently see
with Track Designer, Track Draw, Blue Brick, other??

Martin

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Beating up, kicking, and verbally abusing an old dead rotted horse...
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.trains, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:43:09 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Chris Gray wrote:
Martin Legault wrote:

If Matt or someonelse rewrite the code (open sourced or not) I would suggest to
use a framework that is available to most of the OS like Qt or GTk. That way it
would be really easy to port to all OS not just the most known. Wine is working
fine for now but if TD is recompiled with the new visual C..., will it still run
thru wine?

My understanding is that the new Wine supports the .NET framework using MONO
(open source implementation of nearly all of .NET). I think it is older
programs, and game-like programs (like LEGO's designer) that it has trouble
with.

Compiling pre-existing code with the latest Visual C++ won't introduce the .NET
framework into an app.  The app would have to be rewritten to use .NET in order
to get a .NET dependency in, so that's not an issue.  Apps compiled with Visual
Studio 2005 no longer work on any version of Windows prior to Windows 2000, but
I doubt that would be a problem in Wine.

--Travis

 

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