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Re: 9v Update (ILTCO's involvment)
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Thu, 6 Apr 2006 13:31:16 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Tom Duggan wrote:
> I think this is a great thing that Eric has taken on.
> Someone needs to get the ball rolling, and he appears to be doing just that.
> As far as ILTCO goes, what exactly is the status of things there?
> There doesn't ever really seem to be anything going on there. I am the rep for
> NELUG, and have access to most of the mailing lists, but quite frankly, it's
> quite stagnant over there. There haven't been posts on most lists for months,
> some years, and it makes me wonder, what IS the purpose of ILTCO?
> All we hear about is that things are being worked on "behind the scenes" and
> that when it can be shared with us it will be, but that time never seems to
> come. I know there are NDA's and all that, but if ILTCO wants to be the focal
> point for the community, then this stuff needs to come through faster than the
> trickle we seem to get.
> So if information is able to be given out through other means than "normal
> channels" I say, let's take that information, and do with it what we can,
> because I have the feeling we would be seeing plastic track on the store shelves
> long before we got any information through "normal channels"
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> Tom D
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> In lugnet.trains, Steven Barile wrote:
> > * Could you please explain why ILTCO is the normal channel for such issues? -
> > Didier Enjary
> > ILTCO is operated under a democratic process. All 33 member clubs are equally
> > represented and receive communications at the exactly the same time thru the
> > mail lists. One of the six ILTCO goals was to provide LEGO a single point of
> > contact so that LEGO can make announcements, sneak peek pictures, etc. and it
> > would reach all the clubs and in most cases the general public at the same time.
> > This is what I mean by "normal channel"
> >
> > It has been for the last 3 years that the train topic information flowed thru
> > ILTCO out to the community. I don't see us as being a bottle neck but rather a
> > conduit, which I hope you all agree with. When Jake left LEGO he seems to have
> > neglected to reassign his personal contacts in the community (beyond the
> > Ambassador program) to Jan and Steve. So as a result this information came thru
> > the Ambassadors.
> >
> >
> > * "Do you think Eric has overstepped his bounds by launching the save.9vtrains
> > website?" - Didier Enjary
> > There are no "bounds" or jurisdiction as far as ILTCO is concerned. ILTCO is
> > made up of a collection of clubs (Eric's included), so that we can have a
> > central repository for train related materials (www.ILTCO.org) and a way to
> > easily communicate with each other (in the form of the Assembly mail list).
> >
> > Do we need another train web site and discussion form when there is Lugnet and
> > www.ILTCO.org? I tend to think that fragmenting sub-topics dilutes the message
> > and lessens the appearance of solidarity of the train AFOLs.
> >
> >
> > * Showing support for other forums will go a long way to prove that ILTCO is
> > not trying to rule the world of LEGO Trains (an image that I know you are trying
> > to avoid). - Jude Beaudin
> > ILTCO has 33 member clubs world wide (330 individual members), all have voting
> > rights and equal access to posting messages, news items and articles on the web
> > site. ILTCO is not trying to rule the world but rather be the democratic hot
> > spot in the center of the train AFOL universe... THIS IS AN IMAGE WE ARE TRYING
> > TO MAINTAIN!
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > SteveB
> >
> > ILTCO Goals
> > The purposes of this Organization shall be:
> >
> > 1. the promotion of good fellowship and communication among LEGO model
> > railroading enthusiasts; and
> >
> > 2. the promotion and dissemination of knowledge about LEGO model railroading,
> > through online resources, meetings, publications, and libraries; and
> >
> > 3. the supporting of the formation and growth of LEGO Train Clubs; and
> >
> > 4. the cultivation of L-Gauge as a recognized model railroading hobby standard;
> > and
> >
> > 5. the establishment of comprehensive communications with The LEGO® Group /
> > LEGO® Direct, NMRA, hobby publishers, train show organizers, and the like; and
> >
> > 6. the representation of the interests and concerns of the LEGO Train community.
"My name is Rich, and I'm a LEGO lurker."
How about ILTCO asking LEGO to throw us all a bone by offering one of those
ILTCO only catalog codes that gives some great discount on some set(s) like
they've done in the past? This would be a quick indicator to LEGO how rabid we
are out here. LEGO could invest a few dollars (through the discount) before they
mistakenly walk away from a product line.
There are a handful of posters to these forums, there are gazillions (that's
right!) of lurkers....
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