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Subject: 
Spybotic control of train speed regulator
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Wed, 1 Feb 2006 19:55:36 GMT
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Hello all,

Lets put in front what I find a smart improvement of the basic (soon old) train 9V speed regulator. http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1607973 This is a picture that arrived very recently on brickshelf showing how to adapt a spybotic to control at distance a 9V train speed regulator with the IR of the spybotic.

However, I still have a question: Why using a 9V light in front of the photodetector of the spybotic?

If the author of this addition is reading, please explain. Or if you know him/her, please pass along the question :)

Anyway, in my opinion it is a very good improvement of the classic system for indoor use, and not only for trains if you think of it further...

Philippe “frogleap”.

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Spybotic control of train speed regulator
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Wed, 1 Feb 2006 20:19:35 GMT
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"Philippe "frogleap" Label" <frogleap_@_wanadoo_._fr> wrote in message
news:Iu0y0o.I42@lugnet.com...
Hello all,

Lets put in front what I find a smart improvement of the basic (soon old)
train
9V speed regulator.
<http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1607973>
This is a picture that arrived very recently on brickshelf showing how to
adapt
a spybotic to control at distance a 9V train speed regulator with the IR
of the
spybotic.

However, I still have a question:
Why using a 9V light in front of the photodetector of the spybotic?

If the author of this addition is reading, please explain. Or if you know
him/her, please pass along the question :)

Anyway, in my opinion it is a very good improvement of the classic system
for
indoor use, and not only for trains if you think of it further...

Philippe "frogleap".

My guess: Emergency Stop?
Neat design either way.  Thanks for showing.  The author should speak up!

-Rob
www.brickmodder.net

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Spybotic control of train speed regulator
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Thu, 2 Feb 2006 01:36:31 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   Hello all,

   However, I still have a question:
Why using a 9V light in front of the photodetector of the spybotic?

This was designed by Tom and used during the WAMALTC meeting on January 21, 2006. I have posted a message to the Yahoo group and I am hoping that Tom is checking his e-mail. Using this design permits the remote control operation of two trains at the same time. I purchased two of the Spybotic sets to use the same set up.

CDC

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Spybotic control of train speed regulator
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Fri, 3 Feb 2006 15:43:50 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Philippe Label wrote:
   Hello all,

Lets put in front what I find a smart improvement of the basic (soon old) train 9V speed regulator. http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1607973 This is a picture that arrived very recently on brickshelf showing how to adapt a spybotic to control at distance a 9V train speed regulator with the IR of the spybotic.

However, I still have a question: Why using a 9V light in front of the photodetector of the spybotic?

If the author of this addition is reading, please explain. Or if you know him/her, please pass along the question :)

Anyway, in my opinion it is a very good improvement of the classic system for indoor use, and not only for trains if you think of it further...

Philippe “frogleap”.


Some basics of the design: - Two throttles controlled by one Spybotics (left and right controlls on remote) - Rubberband tension should be such that they slip rather than tearing it apart. - Using NQC, internal program allows control of both throttles without remote (i.e., on Spybotics brink itself). First throttle controlled by by Touch Sensor and second throttle controlled by Light Sensor (hence the need for the light bulb). - Pics and .dat file: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=166612

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Spybotic control of train speed regulator
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Date: 
Fri, 3 Feb 2006 17:19:22 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Tom Cook wrote:

   Some basics of the design: - Two throttles controlled by one Spybotics (left and right controlls on remote) - Rubberband tension should be such that they slip rather than tearing it apart. - Using NQC, internal program allows control of both throttles without remote (i.e., on Spybotics brink itself). First throttle controlled by by Touch Sensor and second throttle controlled by Light Sensor (hence the need for the light bulb). - Pics and .dat file: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=166612

This is a very cool setup. Are you useing the Spybot remote, or the RCX remote? I own several spybot moduals, and I’ve thought of controlling points with them. I’ve also seen clubs use remotes to control a kill switch.

Enstead of the light, could you use the touch sensor for both controllers? Press once to address the left, or press twice to address the right controller. Then do the same to address left or right direction on the control knob, and finally hold untill you’ve reached the desired possition.

Then again, a design with enough slip might allow you to mount a gear as an auxillery knob above each controller.

Mat

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Spybotic control of train speed regulator
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Date: 
Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:11:14 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Mathew Clayson wrote:
   In lugnet.trains, Tom Cook wrote:

   Some basics of the design: - Two throttles controlled by one Spybotics (left and right controlls on remote) - Rubberband tension should be such that they slip rather than tearing it apart. - Using NQC, internal program allows control of both throttles without remote (i.e., on Spybotics brink itself). First throttle controlled by by Touch Sensor and second throttle controlled by Light Sensor (hence the need for the light bulb). - Pics and .dat file: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=166612

This is a very cool setup. Are you useing the Spybot remote, or the RCX remote? I own several spybot moduals, and I’ve thought of controlling points with them. I’ve also seen clubs use remotes to control a kill switch.

Enstead of the light, could you use the touch sensor for both controllers? Press once to address the left, or press twice to address the right controller. Then do the same to address left or right direction on the control knob, and finally hold untill you’ve reached the desired possition.

Then again, a design with enough slip might allow you to mount a gear as an auxillery knob above each controller.

Mat

I am using the Spybot remote - have not tried the RCX remote. I like the idea of using the Spybot for turnout control (and free-ing up RCX for other stuff), but the Spybot body is so large.

I don’t see why you couldn’t devise a different program to use one button for both throttles, but it is difficult already to control forward, reverse and stop with one button, so I would hesitate to try.

As for auxiliary knobs for local control, I spent a short time trying that, but with the worm and wormgear set up, getting the slip in the right place of the drive-train made it quit cumbersome - but I would love to see other designs to accomplish this.

 

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