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    Breaking radio silence... —David K. Z. Harris
    Too much work (still pre-IPO, but still hanging on after 5 years!), but I finally made some time to build more improvements on my Spine Car. I added some beds for the SuperTrain 2001 show, but I finally made some time to work on much-needed (and (...) (23 years ago, 21-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
   
        Re: Breaking radio silence... —Iain Hendry
     "David K. Z. Harris" <frenezulo@baylug.org> wrote in message news:GC4oxH.F1G@lugnet.com... (...) I (...) as (...) David, Your spine car is beautiful! I really like unusual train configurations (such as shared wheelsets). The detail and realism is (...) (23 years ago, 21-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —David K. Z. Harris
     (...) I originally made it to measure stripe on various "Daylight"-type passenger coaches, so I could easily tell where the stripes were, but I could also tell the top and bottom, level of the windows, etc. without worrying about the distance (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Tom Stangl
     You want a 25-car Metroliner? I can do that ;-) I've just been playing around with designs for various cars. I have enough Metroliners, I just need to figure out HOW MANY of each car to make. I need to build a mail car, 2-3 Club Cars, a ton of (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
    
         JULY BAYLUG MEETING and brick/plate height ruler... —Mark Benz
      Some guys just love to gloat! So TOM how about building an 8 wide metroliner? I've completed a new SW1 8 wide switcher, and have rebuilt the 8 wide hopper. Its much better. Did you scan those instruction cards? Are you happy with out deal for parts? (...) (23 years ago, 26-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) Here is a typical(1) consist for a 15 or so car train from the heavyweight era that I just made up, but which ought to be fairly representative. Starting from the front: -baggage -baggage -Railway Post Office -Dormitory -Coach -Coach -Coach (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
    
         Passenger Train Consists (was: Re: brick/plate height ruler...) —John Neal
       (...) I just happened to be surfing looking for some Hiawatha info the other night, and came up with this URL: (URL) has scanned an original, full brochure on the Milwaukee Road's Olympian Hiawatha-- what a cool primary resource:-) -John (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Christopher Masi
     (...) snip lots of useful information (...) Lar, What is the difference between a dome car and an observation car? Is a dome car just an observation car that fits in the middle of a train? By my interpretation even though both the "Club Car" and my (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —James Powell
      (...) Yep. Like: (URL) last photo). And yes, we did steal the idea from the same place :) James (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —James Mathis
      (...) Very nice VIA train set. Nice yellow nose. What did you do for the yellow stripe curving around the tail-end of the last car in the set? Is that sticker-tape, or is there a yellow curved plate? later, James Mathis (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —James Powell
      (...) Sticky tape. The blue 2x2 macaroni pieces are from the cement mixers in 4565, and then the tape is carried (perhaps was :), around the back of the cars. The cars were rather fragile, the bogie's are only held in place by a 1x4 plate, and the (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Steve Chapple
      (...) Not so strange when you realize that pretty much ALL of it came apart in shipping. (Sure are glad you used all those Ziploc bags.) I was able to intuitively reconstruct all but the SNOT engine. With so much going on I forgot about the photos (...) (23 years ago, 28-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) Sort of. Oh boy. Books can be written on this topic. Many books HAVE been. Go read them for more detail Pardon my terseness, I am in Houston between flights, enroute to San DiLego for the (non)Wedding Fest. Railroads tend to order custom. So (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Frank Filz
       (...) Would you characterize "bi-level" as "dome-nature"? My impression has been that bi-level cars are fully bi-level (and pretty darn tall), but then I haven't ever really studied passenger trains much (actually, I tend not to be too much into in (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: brick/plate height ruler... —James Powell
         (...) No. Bi-levels are not "dome-nature" (for example, the METRA commuter cars, or the GO cars, or the Southern (UK) railway cars(1)), but are simply a way to get more people into the space available. Fortunately, railways have not taken this to (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) No. The defining characteristic is windows across the roof so you can look up and out and over... Ask me tonite if that doesn't make sense I'll explain in person. ++Lar (23 years ago, 28-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —James Simpson
       (...) I guess that its fair to say that you've left Houston already? I'd enjoy meeting you (wouldn't rule out a trip to the airport) if you're still here! james Simpson (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Christopher Masi
      (...) Snip all the information (thanks by the way) Whoa! Lots of information there. I just wondered what you meant by dome as compared to observation. It seems that both dome car and observation cars serve the same varied purposes and that they have (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) No, there are different distinguishing features. (and no, I'm not in Houston any more, I am in Carlsbad, CA). A car can be both but it has to *have* both natures. (23 years ago, 28-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Duane Hess
     (...) discussion since I'm mostly a space head) I worked for Colorado Railcar last year and they build specialty dome cars. Mostly diners and galley cars. You can see examples at their site. (URL) this helps sombody out... -Duane (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —John Neal
      Whoa. Cool link, Duane! What a great resource for a modern passenger train! Thanks! -John (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Tom Stangl
      Oh, the AGONY of trying to build them, though! You'd have to raid DOZENS of Paradisa sets for the curved-top windows for a car! (...) -- | Tom Stangl, iPlanet Web Server Technical Support Netscape Communications Corp | iPlanet Support - (URL) A (...) (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: brick/plate height ruler... —Christopher Masi
     (...) Excellent Link! Thanks, Chris (23 years ago, 27-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Breaking radio silence... —Josh Baakko
     (...) It looks like what is more common;y known as a well car, or container car. (...) Looks good! josh (...) (23 years ago, 21-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
   
        Re: Breaking radio silence... —Steve Chapple
   (...) I was so inspired that I've made container car Bricksmith kits that will be available as soon as I can find time to get the instructions drawn up. :-) The first production run (which I plan to auction) is done and parts for many dozens more (...) (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
   
        Re: Breaking radio silence... —Josh Baakko
   (...) Josh (23 years ago, 23-Apr-01, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
   
        Re: Breaking radio silence... —Steve Chapple
   In lugnet.trains, Josh Baakko writes: <snip> (...) (URL) 8-) (22 years ago, 9-Feb-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.org.ca.nalug, lugnet.loc.us.ca.sf)
 

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