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In lugnet.space, Christian Treczoks wrote:
> Jake McKee wrote:
> > That went fairly quick, and I still had way too many gray bricks left.
> Lucky you... But thats not the topic today.
Yeah, of course, now that I'm done with this huge module, my gray bricks are
almost gone! I'm surprised how many this MOC took!
> > Behold... space based intermodal! Using standardized containers, the warehouse
> > module stores the containers. Soon to be built ships move the containers between
> > worlds. And soon to be built space trains move the containers around the
> > moonbase.
> Great design! As I worked on a container system for moonbase, too (yes,
> I'm not only into castle), I am interested on some details of the design:
>
> 1. How do you handle stacking of containers? I failed to see tiles on
> top of the containers, so stacking could cause problems. A photo of the
> underside of the containers and of the position where a container is
> placed would be helpful, too.
They are actually suspended. You can see the racks and the axles that support
them here:
http://www.bricksonthebrain.com/photoblog/index.cfm?action=display&photo=203
I'm not sure I like this as a long term solution, and a standard should probably
make sure to include a stacking capability. But for this MOC, I wanted them
suspended.
> 2. The crane with the extendable section is very nice, but, sadly, there
> is the important part missing: How do you grab the containers?
Super duper anti-gravity force field? (Which translates to: I haven't figured
that part out yet)
> 3. What exactly ist the purpose of the 32064s (Brick 1x2 with technic
> axlehole) on the small sides?
That's how the containers are mounted to racks, or the soon to be created
container spacecraft and train. They are also used to mount them to the openings
of Moonbase module corridors.
I tried to use pin/pin connectors, rather than axles, but just couldn't make it
work right on the racks.
> My concerns over your design come from my own design experiences with
> space containers, where one design goal was to build the parts in a way
> to allow automated handling, i.e. loading an unloading of containers
> with RCX-controlled cranes to provide an animated scenario. Therefor my
> questions over the missing tiles and the axlehole-bricks, both of which
> are points of (unwanted) friction that could cause simple automated
> systems to fail.
This design could be used for automation, but not that way I'm currently using
them in this MOC.
Thanks for the feedback!
Jake
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Jake McKee
Webmaster - BIP
http://www.bricksonthebrain.com
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Jake McKee wrote:
> Yeah, of course, now that I'm done with this huge module, my gray bricks are
> almost gone! I'm surprised how many this MOC took!
Problems like this always seem to come as surprises ;-)
> > 1. How do you handle stacking of containers? I failed to see tiles on
> > top of the containers, so stacking could cause problems. A photo of the
> > underside of the containers and of the position where a container is
> > placed would be helpful, too.
> They are actually suspended. You can see the racks and the axles that support
> them here:
> http://www.bricksonthebrain.com/photoblog/index.cfm?action=display&photo=203
Ah, I understand. Stuffed to the pin...
> I'm not sure I like this as a long term solution, and a standard should probably
> make sure to include a stacking capability. But for this MOC, I wanted them
> suspended.
Yea, a stacking solution would make things way easier.
> > 2. The crane with the extendable section is very nice, but, sadly, there
> > is the important part missing: How do you grab the containers?
> Super duper anti-gravity force field? (Which translates to: I haven't figured
> that part out yet)
I used a very nice part in my (scrapped) designs - the 32028 (plate 1x2
with door rail), which is part of the container and of the cranes and of
the locking mechanism. I throw a few bricks together and take a photo to
explain this ASAP. Maybe I switch to the 2540 (plate 1x2 with handle)
for the design, though.
> > 3. What exactly ist the purpose of the 32064s (Brick 1x2 with technic
> > axlehole) on the small sides?
> That's how the containers are mounted to racks, or the soon to be created
> container spacecraft and train. They are also used to mount them to the openings
> of Moonbase module corridors.
Primarily, I was wondering why you did not use the 3700 (the one with
the round hole)...
> I tried to use pin/pin connectors, rather than axles, but just couldn't make it
> work right on the racks.
...but this explains it.
> This design could be used for automation, but not that way I'm currently using
> them in this MOC.
Ack. That suspension-on-a-pin technique is way to difficult to handle
for a little brittle Lego machine.
> Thanks for the feedback!
And thanks for your answer!
Yours, Christian Treczoks
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