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Subject: 
Theme Review
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.reviews
Date: 
Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:53:53 GMT
Reply-To: 
"Tom McDonald" <rocketman@familySPAMTHIS,PALradio.com>
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(canceled)

 

town
(score: 0.885)

Subject: 
Re: Theme Review
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.reviews
Date: 
Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:22:56 GMT
Reply-To: 
MATTDM@antispamMATTDM.ORG
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Tom McDonald <rocketman@familyradio.com> wrote:
Hmm, right. After reading your post I cancelled the others too. I post a lot
from work and it really gets in the way of common sense sometimes... ;-)

Yeah, but common sense is what tells us that Town Jr. sucks....

--
Matthew Miller                      --->                  mattdm@mattdm.org
Quotes 'R' Us                       --->             http://quotes-r-us.org/

 

town
(score: 0.884)

Subject: 
Re: 6462 & 6479 Reviews
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.reviews
Date: 
Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:04:08 GMT
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Duane Hess wrote:

I am thinking about purchasing the following sets this weekend.  Could I get
some feedback from anyone who has purchased these sets as to the
playability and types of pieces of each set.  I will skip buying them altogether
if the pieces are too specialized (i.e. BURPS).

6479 - Emergency Response Center
6462 - Aerial Recovery


Hi,

I like the set 6462, but should admit that helicopter could be nicer if it has
longer main rotors and norrower landing skids. Look nice fronm sides (nicer than
the picture on the box) but sucks from front or back. Anyway, it is nice to have
one, especiallty when thinking about current town range. Has a nice part
selection, too. Look below:

PART NAME                                                 COLOR        QU.
Boat 2x2 Stud                                             Gray           2
Brick 1x1                                                 Black          2
Brick 1x1 Headlight                                       Black          4
Brick 1x2                                                 Black          2
Brick 1x3                                                 Black          1
Brick 1x4                                                 Black          2
Brick 1x4                                                 Yellow         1
Brick 1x6                                                 Black          1
Brick 2x2 Corner                                          Black          2
Brick 2x2 Corner                                          Yellow         2
Brick 2x4                                                 Black          1
Cone 1x1                                                  Clear Yellow   1
Hinge Plate 1x4 Base                                      Black          2
Hinge Plate 1x4 Top                                       Black          2
Lever Small                                               Black          1
Lever Small Base                                          White          1
Lever with Hinges                                         Black          1
Minifig (Extreeme Team Dude, Black Legs, Blue Arms,
Black Hands, Yellow Hip and Black Torso, With White Hairs                1
Minifig (RESQ. Team Member, White Legs, White Arms,
Black Hands, Black Hip and White Torso, with Sunglasses)                 1
Minifig (RESQ. Team Member, White Legs, White Arms,
Black Hands, Black Hip and white Torso, with Communication Headgear)     1
Minifig Airtank Diver                                     Gray           1
Minifig Diver Flippers                                    Blue           2
Minifig Hat Helmet Racing/Space                           Blue           1
Minifig Hat Helmet Racing/Space                           White          2
Minifig Visor Diver                                       Clear Blue     1
Minifig Visor Racing/Space                                Clear Blue     2
Panel 1x2x3                                               Black          4
Plane Jet Engine                                          Black          2
Plane Jet Engine Centre                                   Gray           2
Plate 1x1                                                 Clear Green    2
Plate 1x1                                                 Clear Red      3
Plate 1x1 Clip Horizontal                                 White          2
Plate 1x1 Clip Light                                      Gray           1
Plate 1x1 Clip Vertical                                   Gray           1
Plate 1x1 Round                                           Clear Yellow   1
Plate 1x10                                                Black          2
Plate 1x10                                                Yellow         2
Plate 1x2                                                 Black          3
Plate 1x2                                                 Gray           3
Plate 1x2                                                 Yellow         1
Plate 1x2 with Handle                                     Gray           2
Plate 1x2 with Hook                                       Gray           1
Plate 1x2 with One Stud                                   Black          2
Plate 1x3                                                 Gray           1
Plate 1x3                                                 Yellow         3
Plate 1x4                                                 Black          5
Plate 1x4                                                 Yellow         4
Plate 1x4 Car Roof Holder                                 Black          2
Plate 1x6                                                 Black          2
Plate 1x8                                                 Gray           1
Plate 2x16                                                Black          3
Plate 2x2                                                 Yellow         2
Plate 2x2 Round                                           Gray           2
Plate 2x2 with Hole                                       Yellow         5
Plate 2x3                                                 Black          3
Plate 2x3                                                 Gray           2
Plate 2x3 with Hole                                       Gray           1
Plate 2x4                                                 Black          7
Plate 2x6                                                 Black          1
Plate 4x6                                                 Yellow         1
Plate 4x8                                                 Yellow         1
Propeller 3 Blade Aircraft Medium                         Black          1
Propeller 3 Blade Aircraft Medium                         Black          1
Propeller 4 Blade Helicopter New                          Black          1
Rope with Studs at both Ends                              Black          2
Slope Brick 33 3x1                                        Black          2
Slope Brick 33 3x2 Inverted                               Black          4
Slope Brick 45 2x2                                        Black          1
Slope Brick 45 2x2                                        White          1
(Pattern Green/Black Radar Screen and Keyboard)
Slope Brick 45 2x2 Inverted                               Black          1
Slope Brick 45 2x2 Inverted                               Yellow         1
Slope Brick 45 4x2 Double Inverted                        Black          1
Slope Brick 45 4x4 Double Inverted                        Black          1
Space Radar Dish 2x2                                      Clear Yellow   2
Space Robot Arm                                           Gray           2
Tail Shuttle                                              Black          1
(Decals R.E.S.Q.Logo)
Technic Forklift Fork                                     Yellow         4
Technic Pin                                               Gray           1
Technic Pin with Friction                                 Black          4
Technic Wing Back                                         Black          4
Tile 1x2                                                  White          1
(Pattern Control Panel with Yellow Display and Yellow/Red Buttons)
Tile 1x2 with Grille                                      Gray           5
Tile 1x2 with Handle                                      White          1
Tile 1x6                                                  Black          2
Tile 2x2                                                  Gray           1
Tile 2x2 Round with Lifting Ring                          Black          1
Tile 2x2 with Pin                                         Gray           1
Town Binoculars                                           Dark Gray      1
Town Boat Inflatable                                      Yellow         1
Town Cup Board 2x3x2                                      Black          2
Town Cup Board 2x3x2 Door                                 Yellow         2
(Decal "R.E.S.Q." Logo)
Town Fish Net                                             Black          1
Town Harpoon Diver                                        Red            1
Town Hook                                                 Dark Gray      1
Town Ice Hammer                                           Dark Gray      1
Town Motorbike Body (3 wheels) Back                       Black          1
Town Motorbike Body (3 wheels) Front                      Black          1
Town Pulley                                               Dark Gray      1
Town Stretcher                                            White          1
Town Stretcher Holder H type 12L Flexible                 Gray           1
Tyre Town Wide Knobby                                     Black          3
Wedge 3x4                                                 Black          1
Wedge 3x4 Plate                                           Black          1
Wedge 3x4 Plate                                           Yellow         2
Wedge 3x4                                                 Yellow         1
(Decals "R.E.S.Q." Logo)
Wedge 4x4 Inverted                                        Black          1
Wedge 4x4 Triple                                          Black          1
Wedge 4x6 Inverted                                        Black          1
Wheel Centre Town Wide                                    White          2
Wheel Centre Town Wide Motorbike                          White          1
Wheels Stretcher                                          White          2
Winch 2x4x2                                               Black/Gray     1
Windscreen 4x10x2&1/3                                     Clear Blue     1
Windscreen 4x6x1&2/3                                      Clear Blue     1

 

town
(score: 0.883)

Subject: 
Set Review 6553
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.reviews
Date: 
Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:50:50 GMT
Reply-To: 
"Tom McDonald" <rocketman@familySPAMTHIS,PALradio.com>
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Set Review - 6553 Crisis News Crew - by Tom McDonald (revised 10/7/1998)
Theme: Outback
Piece Count: 133
Price at Target: $11.99

Scale: Must have, very good, good, fair, poor
Rating: towniacs: must have; others: good

Decorated Elements (all have tv logo):
  Decals: 4; 2 for truck's 2 1x4x3 pieces, 2 for copters 2 4x4 wedge pieces
  Paint: Copter nose, all minifig torsos, 1x1 tile, 1x2 tiles, 2x2 med
slope

Minifig count: 3; 1 female (hereby dubbed as "Reporter Babe")

----

OVERALL

I pondered a bit about whether or not to skip purchasing this set
altogether. It didn't seem exciting to me, and it still really doesn't.
This is partly because I'm puzzled as to why TLG included this set in the
Outback theme. It is not that crises don't occur in the Outback, but I
would have thought that this set would be better a match for themes such as
Extreme Team as camera coverage, or better yet in Town (Jr.) covering
Jailbreak Joe's latest escape, or a fire.

Yet it has a certain flavor that would round a town out nicely. Most lego
towns I've seen don't have a tv or radio station. This set does not take
the place of them, but rather asks that such facilities be built, as this
is a mobile unit that lives somewhere when it's not covering a breaking
event.

One odd thing: it's not even shown in the small (but extensive) catalog
that came with the set! It had ninjas, insectoids, rc, cyberslam,
aquaraiders, fright knights, even a couple of sets from time twisters, but
not this set.

----

DETAILS

Positives
The helicopter was good. It has outside movable spot lights which is a good
touch. It also came with a flight control panel rather than control sticks
like so many other lego copters. A flippable roof and 1x2x2 light-blue
tinted windows are also included, which are hardly visible in the main
photo on the box.

The truck was fair. I'm glad there's no painted headlights piece. I would
rather have pieces than paint where this concept is concerned. The remote
transmission dish makes it more realistic.

The truck has two good-sized tv stickers, each covers one 1x4x3 wall piece.


Equipment includes a camera on a stand, hand-held camera, light on a stand,
microphone, megaphone, 3 videotape cartridges (tiles). The piece used for
the reporter's microphone is definitely a strange one because it doesn't
look that much like a mic. But I don't think there is currently a better
piece for this, because it needs to hold the 1x1 tv tile, which is called a
"mic flag", which in and of itself was a clever idea.

Reporter Babe has a unique blue torso with small tv logo. Both male
minifigs
have white torsos.


Negatives
The copter has two things about it I would change. First, its control panel
needs to be a plate or two higher, which could easily be done. It seems
like the pilot has to reach to the floor to steer. Second, the copter has
stickers that each cover two pieces. I rarely apply the stickers when this
happens, and I did not do so this time.

The truck has three things about it I would change. First, it needed an
attempt at dish transmitter equipment inside. Having seen a few remote
broadcast trucks in my time, this could easily be solved by at least 1 1x2
brick painted with an electronics picture, either on the truck or inside
it, where 2 would be better. This alone qualifies that the truck should be
one stud longer overall to accomodate equipment storage concerns. Second,
while Reporter Babe is driving, without disassembly the light stand cannot
fit into the back, which is another reason to make the truck another stud
longer. Third, the broadcast dish on the truck doesn't turn, so for typical
remote line-of-sight transmission, she has to position the truck. Who has
time to do that in a crisis? Granted, that's a nit-picker, but this is my
review.


Neutrals
Reporter Babe might have had a suit or more normal clothes or blazer rather
than a uniform. Her hair could be better, as it doesn't look like a typical
female reporter's hair. The hats could have had tv logos.


Extras
Came with extra 1x1 round trans plate of red, green, and clear.


Alternate sets
The set came with two black bars with clip, one was used for the mic. One
was also used on the copter, but I'm not sure what it's for: it could be a
movable/swingable bar used as a step.

I'm also not sure what the megaphone is for, unless Reporter Babe shouts
through it at the copter. I would have thought the copter was tuned into
her wireless mic signal, thus eliminating the need for a bullhorn, but
extra pieces are always welcome, as they make for better alternate sets,
which were about what I expected for such a small set. :|


Playability
Fair. It probably won't be anyone's favorite set. Anything the news crew
would be covering would be far more exciting, inside one's imagination and
outside, thereby overshadowing the presence of the crew.

----

CONCLUSION

Get 6553 because you want Reporter Babe, and/or because you want to round
out your town. It's a 1997 set and probably won't be around next year,
unless on sale through s@h as a "maniac favorite". It wasn't even in the
catalog that came with the set.

--
From Tom McDonald
Anti-spam block in place.
http://mbr-hobby.neotown.com/radiotitan/lego/lego.html
radiotitan@yahoo.com


--
Do what you can, but behave yourself.

We'll have more, right after this.

 

town
(score: 0.883)

Subject: 
Re: Set Review 6553 Crisis News Crew
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.build, lugnet.reviews
Followup-To: 
lugnet.build
Date: 
Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:54:37 GMT
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I wonder if reviews should have their follow-ups set to lugnet.build
(or lugnet.robotics, as appropriate) Or if discussions about reviews
should happen here? I have cc'd this post to lugnet.build, and set the
follow-ups to go there.

I got this set because it says TV and I am still hoping to modify all
those pieces that say TV to say KVI -- a local radio station.

On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:50:50 GMT, "Tom McDonald"
<rocketman@familyradio.com> wrote:

Minifig count: 3; 1 female (hereby dubbed as "Reporter Babe")

Female minifig is way cool!
These are still fairly rare.

This is partly because I'm puzzled as to why TLG included this set in the
Outback theme. It is not that crises don't occur in the Outback, but I

I agree. I think it belongs in Town

The truck was fair. I'm glad there's no painted headlights piece. I would
rather have pieces than paint where this concept is concerned. The remote
transmission dish makes it more realistic.

I REALLY like the way they did headlights on the truck. Sure, maybe
they used to do this. However, recently, it has been stickers, etc. I
think the 1x1 transparents covered such tha they give the apparence of
headlights/rearlights is a really cool idea that they should continue!

microphone, megaphone, 3 videotape cartridges (tiles). The piece used for
the reporter's microphone is definitely a strange one because it doesn't
look that much like a mic. But I don't think there is currently a better
piece for this, because it needs to hold the 1x1 tv tile, which is called a
"mic flag", which in and of itself was a clever idea.

They do have a better piece for it, IMHO (at least, they have it in
white) It's the flat, circular piece found in Town Folks. -- a circle
on a stick with one bump

one stud longer overall to accomodate equipment storage concerns. Second,
while Reporter Babe is driving, without disassembly the light stand cannot
fit into the back, which is another reason to make the truck another stud
longer.

I folded the light stand over and put it the truck without
disassembling it -- thought it quite clever of them to give us a way
of storing the equipment in a way that is probably down in RL (folding
equipment)
Third, the broadcast dish on the truck doesn't turn, so for typical
remote line-of-sight transmission, she has to position the truck. Who has
time to do that in a crisis? Granted, that's a nit-picker, but this is my

I agree here. Trucks do not move NEAR as flexibly as a satellite dish
should/can

than a uniform. Her hair could be better, as it doesn't look like a typical
female reporter's hair. The hats could have had tv logos.

What is a typical female reporter's hair? I figure that any sort of
hair fits a reporter, because women like to style their hair all over
the map.

AS for uniform -- you can always give her a different torso. Like
perhaps switching hers with one of the men.

The set came with two black bars with clip, one was used for the mic. One
was also used on the copter, but I'm not sure what it's for: it could be a
movable/swingable bar used as a step.

I figured that was for holding a spotlight on the copter. You can
shine light DOWN at dark-time

I'm also not sure what the megaphone is for, unless Reporter Babe shouts
through it at the copter. I would have thought the copter was tuned into

No. Reporter Babe uses the megaphone to shout and be heard when she is
trying to talk to a crowd -- or in hurricane conditions when she has
to project her voice well.

Playability
Fair. It probably won't be anyone's favorite set. Anything the news crew
would be covering would be far more exciting, inside one's imagination and
outside, thereby overshadowing the presence of the crew.

I like it myself, quite a bit. Esp. if I can figure out how to make it
a RADIO news reporter set :) It gives me an excuse to stage all sorts
of catastrophes for them to cover!

Sarah Heacock
sarah@eskimo.com

 

town
(score: 0.882)

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